Throuble configuring Prop lever PC6

brianos007
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Re: Throuble configuring Prop lever PC6

Post by brianos007 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:21 pm

Thanks for the info. i think in real life the lever is limited by the rod at the back.

kevin_firth
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Re: Throuble configuring Prop lever PC6

Post by kevin_firth » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:29 pm

Taguilo wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:41 pm

To enable Feather and/or Beta/Reverse using the XML file, edit PC6_Controllers.xml file, and make:
<Macro Name="P_Enable">1</Macro> for Propeller
and <Macro Name="T_Enable">1</Macro> for Throttle

Also follow the instructions on how to detect the ID of each controller axis with FSUIPC's help.

Tomas
Ive done that but am not getting the feather and reverse controls working.
FSUIPC says my controller is 2 X&Y for these axis. Here is my xml ...is this ok?

<!-- USER MODIFICABLE VALUES -->
<!-- ======================= -->

<!-- THROTTLE MACROS -->

<!-- Put here 1 to enable throttle control, or 0 to disable -->
<Macro Name="T_Enable">1</Macro>

<!-- Put here percent of Lever travel (0-100) in where IDLE position is desired -->
<Macro Name="T_Idle">80.00</Macro>

<!-- Put here Controller ID (Check FSUIPC Axis Asignment) -->
<Macro Name="T_ControllerID">2</Macro>

<!-- Put here Axis Name (Check FSUIPC Axis Asignment) -->
<!-- For "Slider" write Slider, no quotes -->
<!-- For X, Y or Z, write XAxis, YAxis or ZAxis , no quotes -->
<Macro Name="T_AxisName">YAxis</Macro>

<!-- Put here Axis ID, if more than one (Check FSUIPC Axis Asignment) -->
<!-- Usually goes 0 -->
<Macro Name="T_AxisID">0</Macro>

<!-- Put here 1 to enable beta/reverse range in flight, or 0 to disable -->
<!-- Usually goes 0 -->
<Macro Name="T_BetaFlOp">1</Macro>


<!-- PROPELLER MACROS -->

<!-- Put here 1 to enable propeller control, or 0 to disable -->
<Macro Name="P_Enable">1</Macro>

<!-- Put here percent of Lever travel (0-100) in where HIGH PITCH is desired -->
<Macro Name="P_HPitch">90.00</Macro>

<!-- Put here Controller ID (Check FSUIPC Axis Asignment) -->
<Macro Name="P_ControllerID">2</Macro>

<!-- Put here Axis Name (Check FSUIPC Axis Asignment) -->
<!-- For "Slider" write Slider, no quotes -->
<!-- For X, Y or Z, write XAxis, YAxis or ZAxis , no quotes -->
<Macro Name="P_AxisName">XAxis</Macro>

<!-- Put here Axis ID, if more than one (Check FSUIPC Axis Asignment) -->
<!-- Usually goes 0 -->
<Macro Name="P_AxisID">0</Macro>

<!-- Autopilot Control Wheel Steer (CWS) sensitivity -->
<!-- Put here a percent of force value applied to joystic axis -->
<!-- from where CWS is enabled -->
<!-- Default is 10 (10 %) -->
<Macro Name="CWS">10</Macro>

<!-- END OF USER EDITABLE SECTION -->

kevin_firth
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Re: Throuble configuring Prop lever PC6

Post by kevin_firth » Wed Dec 25, 2019 9:50 pm

Well, I dont expect any support over the holiday period now, but I'm a little disappointed that there has been no reply to my problem here for over 2 months. The PC6 was my first Milviz purchase, I have considered buying your Kingair but to be completely frank, if this is indicative of the level of support offered here, you just lost a sale from me sorry :(

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Re: Throuble configuring Prop lever PC6

Post by kevin_firth » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:30 pm

Please help with this, It is still impossible to get this to work correctly. This is an extract from my PC6_Controllers.xml file...:

<!-- USER MODIFICABLE VALUES -->
<!-- ======================= -->

<!-- THROTTLE MACROS -->

<!-- Put here 1 to enable throttle control, or 0 to disable -->
<Macro Name="T_Enable">1</Macro>

<!-- Put here percent of Lever travel (0-100) in where IDLE position is desired -->
<Macro Name="T_Idle">80.00</Macro>

<!-- Put here Controller ID (Check FSUIPC Axis Asignment) -->
<Macro Name="T_ControllerID">2</Macro>

<!-- Put here Axis Name (Check FSUIPC Axis Asignment) -->
<!-- For "Slider" write Slider, no quotes -->
<!-- For X, Y or Z, write XAxis, YAxis or ZAxis , no quotes -->
<Macro Name="T_AxisName">YAxis</Macro>

<!-- Put here Axis ID, if more than one (Check FSUIPC Axis Asignment) -->
<!-- Usually goes 0 -->
<Macro Name="T_AxisID">0</Macro>

<!-- Put here 1 to enable beta/reverse range in flight, or 0 to disable -->
<!-- Usually goes 0 -->
<Macro Name="T_BetaFlOp">1</Macro>

I am setting the throttle control on the second lever of my CH Throttle Quadrant. It is set to 'Axis Throttle Set' and sent to FS as a normal axis.
FSUIPC reports that lever as Joy#2 Axis#Y. I cannot see any reason why the xml above would not work, having read the manual.
However, the throttle lever is only able to be moved from full to halfway down. It cannot be moved so the throttle control is close to touching the yellow marked area for reverse.

I would really appreciate some assistance with this please because without properly configured controls this aircraft is not really flyable.
If any others users have overcome this problem what did you do please?
Thanks Kevin

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Re: Throuble configuring Prop lever PC6

Post by Taguilo » Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:31 pm

Hi,

The info you put in xml file seems Ok.

Can you do this test?

Remove Throttle assignment in FSUIPC and assign it in P3D Controls... menu. After that go to calibration and check that Sensitivity is max and Null zone is min. Also ensure that the lever works straight, not reversed (see the Reverse check box).

Also would be great that you prepare another video showing your throttle config and how much it is visually displacing.

Thanks!


Tomas

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Re: Throuble configuring Prop lever PC6

Post by kevin_firth » Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:35 pm

Of course, thanks for your reply, I'll sort that for you :)

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Re: Throuble configuring Prop lever PC6

Post by kevin_firth » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:21 am

Taguilo wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:31 pm
Hi,

The info you put in xml file seems Ok.

Can you do this test?

Remove Throttle assignment in FSUIPC and assign it in P3D Controls... menu. After that go to calibration and check that Sensitivity is max and Null zone is min. Also ensure that the lever works straight, not reversed (see the Reverse check box).

Also would be great that you prepare another video showing your throttle config and how much it is visually displacing.

Thanks!

Tomas
Many thanks for this tip, I think I now have taken a step towards solving the problem.

Here is a video showing the best set-up that I managed to get through FSUIPC - I appear to have found a way to get the throttle control to work as expected (although not as per the manual instructions), but the prop control wont go into feather.
https://youtu.be/qdnRZNZmBCY

I deleted the assignments in FSUIPC and assigned in in P3D controls as directed.
Here is a video showing the lever movements when controls are assigned through P3D. As you can see I get the same throttle movement but the prop control is improved as that does now go into feather.
https://youtu.be/3EFvK3DdTWo

Now the interesting part - I deleted the control assignments from P3D, leaving controllers active and back in FSUIPC set the prop control and throttle control as per the manual. I am able to now get full prop and throttle control movement, albeit that there appears to be some sensitivity issues with the levers jumping around a little.

Is the problem just down to the fact that I should have had controllers active in P3D all along?

Taguilo
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Re: Throuble configuring Prop lever PC6

Post by Taguilo » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:53 pm

I always recommend to calibrate the levers using P3D default events in Controls.. menu.
But if done the same with FSUIPC, selecting "send as normal axis" or so it should also work.

Anyway, glad that you finally solved your issues!

Tomas


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