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Low Frame Rate

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:57 pm
by john_doe3278
I am getting a consistently low framerate in this product. Sitting on the runway with default scenery and no weather the plane gets 15 FPS. The same conditions with the Turbo Otter gets 30+FPS. It makes no difference if I enable Real Glass or not. Is this normal for the product?

David

Re: Low Frame Rate

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:03 am
by Thorsten42
Hi David,

I'm running a quite old hardware setup and the recent developments in the direction of PBR enabled stuff can be really a hard hit but I did not encounter that problem with the Porter that much. For sure losing about 10-15 frames but still ok. Did you play around with Dynamic Lighting and Dynamic Reflections on and off and graphic settings if it makes a difference?

Cheers
Thorsten

Re: Low Frame Rate

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:31 pm
by john_doe3278
Yes, I actually disabled dynamic lighting and reflections completely and it didn’t make a difference. I’ve also tried an uninstall/reinstall but didn’t change anything. I’m pretty sure it’s either something on my particular system or something wrong with the how I installed it but I am not sure what to try next. Oh, and I’m completely up to date with P3D.

Re: Low Frame Rate

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:44 pm
by doodlebug
Go to your Prepar3D .exe
, right click and under compatibility, disable full screen optimization.
Let us know if that helps.

Re: Low Frame Rate

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:19 pm
by john_doe3278
No, unfortunately it didn’t. Also, I’m running the program as administrator

Re: Low Frame Rate

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:01 pm
by john_doe3278
After going back and looking at the system requirements, I realized that the Porter requires 4GB of video card memory and the Turbo Otter only requires 1GB. I am currently running 2GB. Looks like I'll need to upgrade my video card to get the same performance. Sorry to make an issue out of it, I didn't realize system requirements had made such a large leap.

Re: Low Frame Rate

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:04 pm
by Baerenhausen
I have also poor frame rates with the porter and had a look at the content error report after shut down the sim.
There are some errors with the gauges and a few missing textures.
Two textures ( i think prop textures have no specific names only .dds )
and the error = Error loading XMLTools64.dll: The specified resource type was not found in the image file.
( my P3Dv4.5 isn't on C drive installed )
That could be the culprits for bad frame rates.

Re: Low Frame Rate

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:44 pm
by Taguilo
Baerenhausen wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:04 pm
I have also poor frame rates with the porter and had a look at the content error report after shut down the sim.
There are some errors with the gauges and a few missing textures.
Two textures ( i think prop textures have no specific names only .dds )
and the error = Error loading XMLTools64.dll: The specified resource type was not found in the image file.
( my P3Dv4.5 isn't on C drive installed )
That could be the culprits for bad frame rates.
Hi,
Do not pay much attention to the content log. Almost all errors are related to issues that don't affect simulation's performance.
And the error = Error loading XMLTools64.dll means nothing as XMLTools is indeed loaded, otherwise the Porter panel won't work at all.
Poor frames must come from other sources.

Tomas

Re: Low Frame Rate

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:00 pm
by burke18
Glad to see I’m not alone. My system, while not top of the line, has been able to handle complex sims and scenery fine. Both other MilViz products as well as other high end add-ons. Loaded the Porter today and couldn’t get above 7FPS even after turning almost everything off. Really disappointing.

Re: Low Frame Rate

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:48 am
by Cecco
Hi everyone,
first of all thanks to Milviz for creating this beautiful plane! I've been waiting for it for a long time. I also have frame rate problems. with my current configuration it is the only plane in my P3D that has such low frames. I tried to disable both the true glass and the dynamic lights. unfortunately rest at 20 fps ... thanks to those who will help

Re: Low Frame Rate

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:00 am
by Cecco
I have just tried it as suggested, that is disabling the "disable full screen optimization" option or leaving it enabled, but nothing changes. I always have frames that don't go beyond 20. I noticed one thing though. The frames go down when you load the plane entirely. In my opinion it is the PBR that creates this problem

See you soon

Re: Low Frame Rate

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:39 am
by bourki2016
Hello everybody
Same problems as above no more than 4-5 fps .Yes I have only 2gb on video card but with all MV products even F4 I have no such problem

Re: Low Frame Rate

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:19 am
by Baerenhausen
I have noticed, if i load the porter after an other plane , i have 45 frames/sec in outside view.
If i change to cockpit view, the frames drops down to 15 frames/sec and after changing to outside view it stays at 15 frames.
I have deleted the real light entries in the panel.cfg for testing and
got now 40 frames/sec inside and out the porter.
So i think, it must have someting to do with "true glass" feature .

Re: Low Frame Rate

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:01 pm
by Cecco
Baerenhausen wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:19 am
I have noticed, if i load the porter after an other plane , i have 45 frames/sec in outside view.
If i change to cockpit view, the frames drops down to 15 frames/sec and after changing to outside view it stays at 15 frames.
I have deleted the real light entries in the panel.cfg for testing and
got now 40 frames/sec inside and out the porter.
So i think, it must have someting to do with "true glass" feature .
No solution for me...

Re: Low Frame Rate

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:07 pm
by burke18
Baerenhausen wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:19 am
I have noticed, if i load the porter after an other plane , i have 45 frames/sec in outside view.
If i change to cockpit view, the frames drops down to 15 frames/sec and after changing to outside view it stays at 15 frames.
I have deleted the real light entries in the panel.cfg for testing and
got now 40 frames/sec inside and out the porter.
So i think, it must have someting to do with "true glass" feature .
Thanks! I’ll give this a try.