DHC-3T pitching to the right

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by Krazycolin » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:33 pm

Unplug all or your controllers please and try that. If you have another keyboard, please use that.

Also, please check and make that you’ve not got the rudder or ailerons assigned twice.

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by wells » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:48 pm

Robo,

Can you tell us more about your system? How much system RAM do you have? I have seen cases where gauges and controls don't work, when there is a shortage of memory. Can you turn off autogen, reduce terrain mesh and scenery complexity and anything else that might cause memory issues, like programs running in the background, etc. I think you will need to go to the most basic, lowest settings you can and see if the problem goes away. If it does, then add things back in, one by one, until you find the point where the problem reappears.

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by Rebo » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:53 pm

I don't have another keyboard here. And as I said it only occurs in the DHC-3 Turbo. With the DHC2 and 3 is everything fine. Even with all PMDG and FSLABS aircraft is everything working as it should. I have 16 gb of RAM, a I7-3770 @ 3,4ghz and a GTX 1080.

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by robains » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:12 am

I'm having the same issue with P3D V4.3, it makes taking off in the water extremely difficult. I have steering, water rudders up etc. all set per manual and weight distribution is even ... it's as if there is a large exaggeration of engine torque. It also makes it very difficult to turn in water even with the water rudders down.

In addition, I always get a generator failure soon after takeoff. I have no idea why and I can't seem to find any way to prevent it? The manual doesn't say what causes the generator failure, but as soon as I get generator failure the engine shuts down.

Here is an unlisted video:
https://youtu.be/Ah4tPlSj2zM

Cheers, Rob.

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by wells » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:30 am

This is very strange. I know I'm pointing out obvious things that you have probably already tried, but...

Auto rudder is OFF
Autopilot is OFF

Which avionics are you using? If it were just torque or P-factor, the plane would be going left, not right.

What do the instruments look like in the cockpit? Is the ball centered? Have you tried all versions or just the float plane?

Are you using active sky or anything like that? Try clearing all weather...it looks like the plane is weathervaning or has a permanent sideslip, yet the rudder was neutral. This is very strange indeed.

Did you purchase direct from MV or another vendor?

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by Rebo » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:24 am

Auto Rudder and Autopilote are off.
I used the default avionics and the gtn 750/650 Version.
I tried different Versions and with Active Sky on and off.
Got the Otter direct from your Store.

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by Krazycolin » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:55 am

Rob, can you get on Skype so we can walk through this with you?

Let me know by pm please.

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by Rebo » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:56 am

After the hint with the Autopilot, I played a bit around and once used it, my problem is solved. Everything is working now, as it should.

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by Krazycolin » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:30 pm

So no more roll?

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by Rebo » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:28 pm

Yes no more roll. Has something to do with the AP, when you don't used it before. After I pushed it the AP button a few times, the problem was solved, even after restart everything is fine.

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by robains » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:49 pm

wells wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:30 am
This is very strange. I know I'm pointing out obvious things that you have probably already tried, but...

Auto rudder is OFF
Autopilot is OFF

Which avionics are you using? If it were just torque or P-factor, the plane would be going left, not right.

What do the instruments look like in the cockpit? Is the ball centered? Have you tried all versions or just the float plane?

Are you using active sky or anything like that? Try clearing all weather...it looks like the plane is weathervaning or has a permanent sideslip, yet the rudder was neutral. This is very strange indeed.

Did you purchase direct from MV or another vendor?
Auto Rudder is OFF - Yes
Autopilot is OFF - Yes

I'm using F1 GTN 750/650

Instruments looked "normal" ... I'll recheck the ball.

Yes, HiFi AS4 latest update ... winds reported were 4 Kts from 95 (as I recall) ... this is near Hamilton Island (YBHM).

After doing the and posting this, I tried the "standard" DHC-2 an DHC-3 at YBHM (land) and no issues using the same HiFi AS4 weather. I'll try the DHC-3T wheels tonight on YBHM paved runway and see what happens.

Yes, purchase was direct from MV.

Cheers, Rob.

EDIT: I'll trying turning AP On and Off a few times and see if that resolves it, in the office right now and will not be able to get to this until tonight (PST).

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by Tobus » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:11 am

I had the same flying in Africa yesterday on take off. Due to hot temperatures (42 C) and being fully loaded I was overweight, CG ok.
Taking off full loaded in cold temps not as much of an issue.

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by robains » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:49 pm

I made some progress last night ... I went back to default for GPS and turned AP On/Off a few times, I was able to take-off from water without excessive pitching to the right but I couldn't trim the aircraft once airborne.

Water behavior is all over the place, I lowered the wheels to ready for beach/land entry and the aircraft started to skate along the water indefinitely ... had to reset map position to stop it. Biggest problem is the rudders are ineffective at low speed (do nothing even at full rudder) but as soon as I hit a "magic" speed that is faster then start to work but then the aircraft is very unstable in any turn as the speed is too high.

Also noticed that I sometimes get stuck at full right rudder (ball over to full right) ... apply left rudder it starts to return to center but as soon as I go back to neutral rudder position the ball goes full right again?

Still getting frequent generator failures and engine stop, no idea why?

Just want to be clear that this behavior with with the DHC-3 Turbo ONLY, the DHC-3 piston with floats appears to be working reasonably well on water.

Cheers, Rob.

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by Taguilo » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:57 pm

Hi,

Do all of those issues happen with Float versions? Did you try wheeled ones?

As for generator failures, they do not exist; what's failing is the engine, hence generator going offline afterwards.
Please check FAQ post to solve that.

Thanks!
Tomas

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Re: DHC-3T pitching to the right

Post by Rebo » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:19 pm

I can confirm the behaviour with the rudder. At speed of 20knots the Otter begins to turn. Lower than 20 knots you can't turn. After 20knots it begins to turn very fast, so that you have to apply just a little rudder to do an excessive turn. And yes, sometiens the Waterrudder gets stuck and you have to go neutral.

But this is only with the Floats and Amphibian Version.

And it is in P3D V4.3.


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