DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by jjr5067 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:17 pm

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

Copied these files from wheeled version E:\Prepare 3Dv4\SimObjects\Airplanes\DHC-3 Otter Milviz\panel.GTN750 folder EXCEPT for panel.cfg and stack now works in the other Otters BUT the drop down GTN including stack gtn will freeze if I drop down and open another window from Prepare menu, I think we are making progress.

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by jjr5067 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:49 pm

I figured it out but is not an actual "fix" By copying over the files I have described the stack now works. The drop-down and/or stack will still freeze if I drop down another window BUT if I shrink the size of the drop down GTN the cockpit mount GTN will go black as it should and I can then enlarge the drop down again. Until an actual reason of fix is found I guess I will use it like this. Still do not whose end this resides in. You have the copy the files from the wheeled version from each GTN folder into the other planes respective GTN folder EXCEPT for the panel cfg of each plane. That seems to be unique to each plane.

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by ruruNY » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:12 pm

Jjr,

I spent the last couple of hours looking at all the otter planes and get the same exact results as your describing. I mainly fly in VR with oculus and I use a chaseplane created preset to quickly zoom in on the VC view of the 750. Since the VC view never has a problem I never noticed the pop-ups stopped working. This is not just you and your uncles installation.

Here is my scenario:
Start up in P3Dv4 with milvis otter amphibian with Virtual cockpit 750 in view and it works fine
Bring up 750 pop-up. It works fine and virtual cockpit view blanks out which is normal behavior
I hit alt and select world>weather and the weather menu opens
The instant I close the weather menu the virtual cockpit 750 turns on which is not normal as the pop-up is still open
When I try any functions on the pop up 750 it appears frozen or locked up but I can see those functions happening on the virtual cockpit 750. If I move around the map on the pop-up, the VC map is moving.
The virtual cockpit 750 always works fine.
The only way to come out of this is to reset the scenario or go to select aircraft and select the same aircraft again

Brian

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by ruruNY » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:26 pm

Also note that in the virtual cockpit view you have to double-click the home and direct-to buttons for them to work
If you double-click the home button it will take you to the main menu. This is known and not a problem. But the home button has a second function. Normally if you hold it down it will take you directly to the map screen. To get this to work just double-click it and hold down the second click.

Brian

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by jjr5067 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:52 pm

Thanks for joining the forum. Everyone that has this problem and will respond so hopefully it can be fixed!

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by jjr5067 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:55 pm

This useful info is from a person on a Flight1 forum:

Actually, you don't even have to shrink or enlarge the pop-up Windows.
Just bring your mouse to the right edge where it turns to the double arrow and left click.
This brings back focus to the pop-up window 750 and if you also have a 650 do the same.

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by jjr5067 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:01 pm

Thanks to my uncle he found the differences in the files from wheeled version to other versions that made the difference in getting "stack to work". Not bad for a retired USAF flight engineer who started out in a B-26 Invader, B-57 Canberra and retired flying 747's. I'm curious why is there no comments from the support staff to the others who have this problem?. You guys couldn't find it but that's OK but it still does not fix the problem with the freezing pop up GTN and the reason has to be somewhere in the wheeled version as it does not happen in the wheeled version only the amphib, skis or floats. If it's an actual Flight1 or Milviz problem I don't know but I would think you guys should now, you did write the program for each respective to be able to be integrated with other flight sim products.

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by JonathanBleeker » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:17 pm

I only got the GTNs a few days ago and am busy investigating issues one by one for myself.

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by jjr5067 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:20 pm

JonathanBleeker wrote:I only got the GTNs a few days ago and am busy investigating issues one by one for myself.
Thanks for the help and input. Maybe the two of us and my uncle can figure it out!

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by JonathanBleeker » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:03 pm

I was able to replicate this problem in the Beaver. I first tried disabling Legacy mode, as well as setting the 750 alone (not the 650) to core 4. Not sure if the core setting was the problem (the new version of the F1 GTNs is supposed to be able to run on all cores), but when I shut down the sim I noticed one of the trainers wasn't closing down in the task manager. I killed it, and when I restarted the sim everything was fine.

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by jjr5067 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:11 pm

Good info Thanks. What was the name in TaskManager? GTN Trainer?

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by jjr5067 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:23 pm

Just to let you know we have now cancelled your order for the DHC-3 Otter, as requested and issued a refund back to you via PayPal. JustFlight gave up and did not even try to offer tech support. They simply refunded my money!

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by JonathanBleeker » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:32 am

Yes GTN Trainer.

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by jjr5067 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:25 pm

Is there going to be a permanent fix for this or because my uncle and I found a workaround it's going to stay this way?

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Re: DH3 Otter and Flight1 GTN 750 problem

Post by Krazycolin » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:02 am

Did you answer the question?


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