Blackbird Sims / Milviz Forum Archive

Hi, I purchased the Beaver late last week (fantastic product - thank you!). It has been working beautifully except for an issue I seem to be having with virtual cockpit responses to some particular mouse clicks (but not all mouse clicks). And yes, I have read both the aircraft handbook and the Bendix KAP 140 autopilot handbook (just in case it was a user error), but am still having issues. Not discounting this still is a user error of course - it is just that I was stumped enough to ask for help after trying for hours to fit it myself. Happy to swallow my pride if I am doing something wrong.

The first issue is that for some reason I cannot get the Yoke to hide even though when I place the mouse on the "contact points" and the tool tip comes up to hide the yoke, it still does not hide. But it did hide once....so I am a bit baffled here - I did not do anything different that particular time and have not changed any settings anywhere at all.

The second problem is with the autopilot. Yes, I realise it needs to go through it's "warm up" routine once the radio stack is turned on, but after that I again seem to have problems with it recognising the mouse click. Sometimes it will react to them, sometimes it doesn't.

I am a bit baffled by all of this. I have come up with rare random problems in the past with virtual cockpit mouse clicking not being 100% recognised, however in those past cases the tool tips did not come up either. In those rare cases changing my seating position (moving closer to the panel) or even the zoom resolved the problems (as rare as they were).

But in this case, the tool tips are all coming up 100% of the time - so the sim appears to be "seeing" that I have the mouse over the click point. But it just doesn't seem to always respond. I have tried all other click points in the cockpit and all work 100% perfectly 100% of the time except for the yoke and autopilot.

Are you using any camera addons like ezdok?

Hi Steve, no, everything is stock except for one other third party add-on aircraft and a massive amount of ORBX scenery. But I think I have "solved" it. Or more correctly found a workaround I am happy with. I was reading up on click points and there was some discussion (in general - not MilViz specific) that if your default eyepoint is within an object or behind an object (so an object between you and the panel), then the click points might not work consistently. For my setup, I have moved the default seating position a little bit - about 15 cm bit further back and about 10 cm higher from the default position. It seems this was just enough to cause the problem because when I go back to the default position everything works again.

But since I prefer my default position to be "hard coded" in the aircraft.cfg fil, I have simply added an extra camera definition for the switch panel in front of the yoke. That way I don't have to remove it at all to get at the switches. Probably better too as on my tiny screen the switches are a bit hard to read anyway - with the camera they take up nearly the whole screen). As for the autopilot, using the Engine Control view allows me to use it without any issues.

I figured it was something like that. If your camera is in the seat so to speak the click spots will not work although you cannot see the seat blocking your view.