Slayer wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:30 pm
I'm sorry you feel that way.
It was never sold with V5 in mind nor was V5 on the horizon during development. Because you bought a newer sim and moved ahead with it is also not our fault so I'm not sure why you are angry. We never sold the product as V5 ready.
It will make it do V5 in due time but we have a ton of projects in the pipeline that need to be done before reworking of older products can begin.
You have completely missed my point, which is more or less exactly why I posted in the first place - you clearly don't understand your customers, or even care enough to read the post.
You say You're not sure why I'm angry. I wasn't, but now I've read your comment, which is the closest we have got to the 'official' line on the subject, I am quite angry indeed. So let me spell it out for you:
I didn't buy the Beaver expecting it to be P3Dv5 compatible. When I bought it, there was no such thing as P3Dv5.
Then, three weeks later, P3D v5 came out. I didn't know there was going to be a P3D v5. I'd only just bought v4. But I
bought v5 anyway, because who is going to deliberately use obsolete software?
I didn't buy a 'newer simulator'. I bought the current version of the same simulator.
Anyone coming into flight simulation tomorrow will buy MSFS2020, not FSXSE. Or X-Plane 11, not X-Plane 10. Or P3Dv5. To them, v5 isn't a 'newer simulator'. It's just the simulator. Yes, if you look hard enough on LM's website, you can still buy v4 (and even v3), but it's pretty obvious that the right one to buy as a newbie is v5. And I'm pretty confident that nobody who is new to flight simulation is going to buy P3D v4 just so they can fly a 5-year-old add-on Beaver.
Almost everything in my 'hangar' worked right away (just over 100 aircraft, freeware and payware). In fact only ONE v4.5 compatible aircraft (the Just Flight VC10) failed to work in v5 (and even that mostly works until an as-yet unidentified object in the VC crashes the sim). FWIW, Just Flight contacted me and assured me that there would be a v5 compatible version once the developer had finished the BAe 146.
So, the Beaver possibly does work, but because I bought it via OrbX it's installed through Central and completely buried. I was a bit disappointed at the time, but
I didn't 'expect' my Beaver to be v5 compatible, at least not right away. Nevertheless, at some point I did hope there might be an update, even if I had to pay for it. Just an update to the installer might have done the job, we will never know. Even if there wasn't an update, maybe I'd buy some new aircraft that WERE compatible with v5.
But no. NOT ONE aircraft has been updated to v5, unless you count the T-38, which I don't because it's a complete re-do, not a compatibility update.
So. Even if I wanted to buy some new aircraft, I couldn't.
I'll say it again. Based on how impressed I was with my first Milviz aircraft (the Beaver), I would definitely have bought the T-50 Bobcat. I would almost certainly have followed that with the PC-6 and PA-30.
But I can't buy those, because they are not compatible with the current version of the P3D, even though you publicly stated on Wed Jul 15, "It is now our intention to release (what we can) our products free of charge for v5. However, this will only involve doing a new installer. No PBR, Trueglass or Reallight added... nothing but a new build."
That hasn't happened, there is no timescale and there has been no statement suggesting whether or when it will or won't happen.
Won't. Existing MilViz aircraft WILL NOT ever be updated to work with v5. There. I'll make the statement.
That's over $100 of sales you lost, from me alone. But you don't actually care, do you? Because the real money isn't coming from little people like me, spending my pocket money on toy aeroplanes.
Please be honest with your customers. You have no intention of doing anything with the existing catalogue. Maybe MSFS2020 will provide a few bonus sales, but the real money is in the 'ton of projects in the pipeline' -the military contract work.
Just publicly state that you will not be updating the old products, and we can all move forward. I've accepted it anyway.