Blackbird Sims / Milviz Forum Archive

Hope someone can advise me about where I might be going wrong taking off in the F4E since ADV. The engine is powered up, flaps and slates down and out, I push the throttles forward, afterburners kick in. I pick up speed and eventually the nose lifts. I try not to pull too hard on the JS as I've over rotated before now, but I do pull gently back and - nothing. I'm nose up but not lifting from the runway. I go on and on, nose up but wing wheels firmly stuck to the runway. Finally I am way back on the throttle cos virtually at the end of the runway. Finally I spring off rw, over rotate, gain height but because nose is so high I go into a spin. The odd thing about the spin apart from anything else is that it takes ages to come back down again. But in the spin I cannot regain control so do finally bite the dust. This has happened over and again and I've given up now because I just cant think of anything else that I might be doing wrong. All advice gratefully received.

Thanks

Neil

What sort of speed are you at when you leave the ground?

What payload are you using and what is your weight/cg configuration?.

What RPMs are in the engines?.

Is the aircraft TO run acceleration stopped with the rotation?

Any other addons running with the Phantom?

Thanks for the replies. My eyes are moving between gauges and up through the forward cockpit, but I've noted that Ive got to about 210-220 and more before now, taking off from Edwards and, because the ground is hard, careering off the end of the runway and kicking up dust through the desert. My payload is all air to air AIM 7and9) and two fuel tanks. I may not have trimmed down enough but it seems counter intuitive that this might be the problem?? The take off run acceleration has stopped at nose lift on one occasion but most of the time not. I'm running AS16, I've turned Accuse on and off (didn't seem to affect things significantly), and ORBX scenery. Sorry, cant tell you what engine RPM has been though in auditory terms everything sounds like it is full-on.

It seems the adv module is not correctly loaded.
Are you using fsx or p3d?.

Try to uninstall the F4E and reinstall it again. But before that, make sure all f4e files in the sim gauge folder are removed.

If using f4e tacpack, the installation order is:
F4E -> f4e tacpack -> f4e adv

Will do, thanks
Neil

Also, please list the version numbers in the installer names of the installers you have.

I'm afraid its still the same. It must be something that I am doing wrong but I cant figure it. Engines are full on afterburner, flaps down, speed on 200 and the aircraft begins to lift from the runway but I begin to draw the Joystick back slowly and I tail strike. Sorry, Jonathan, I didn't quite understand what you meant in your last mail. I've just got a new Thrustmaster Warthog JS and THrottle, could that have anything to do with it? (I have tried to recalibrate but doesn't seem to make any difference).
Thanks

Neil

Sorry, being dim. I understand now.
F4 main installer A1.170424_E
T/P Same _ETP
Adv A1.170426_EADV

Fsx or P3d?
Running as admin?

P3D v3.4 and running as Admin

When we say running as admin we mean right click on your P3D, select properties->Compatibility->Run this program as administrator. Confirm this is the case?

Secondly, are you able to move any of the 3 SAS switches on the left console near the throttles?

Just for confirmation. What does the aircraft do if you put it in the air using slew mode (lets say @20000 ft) and exit the slew mode...does it fly or it just enters a brick free-fall mode?

Aside, if you turn Instructor mode ON...do you see ANY message displayed (upper left corner) when the aircraft is loaded and you change the a/c config?

Thanks for the help. I haven't run things in administrator in that way so will try it, and will also try that experiment in slew mode, but have a bit of a comparison already in that VRS Tacpack respawns me after a tail strike at about 25,000 and it is immediately out of control, spinning and in, as you put it, 'free fall brick mode'. I am able to put the SAS switches on except for master switch which I wouldn't expect to operate before in steady, stable flight. My computer has gone away for upgrades and service for about a week, so will have to do when it gets back. Is it ok if I raise the issue again in about a week?

Of course.