Trouble Taking Off.

Ryano42
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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by Ryano42 » Thu May 25, 2017 9:52 pm

my issue is related to this one but in the other direction!

As the airspeed builds the Phantom noses harder and harder into the runway until the nose gear fails and it eventually ground loops. Full back stick and no amount of elevator trim helps...

Running as Admin, etc.,

Thanks for any help!

Alvaro
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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by Alvaro » Thu May 25, 2017 10:46 pm

What is the pitch trim indicator needle position?. Does it respond to trim inputs?

Also, do you see instructor messages displayed if instructor mode enabled?

Ryano42
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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by Ryano42 » Sun May 28, 2017 10:45 pm

FSX Acceleration, running as admin. Pitch augmentation on, NWS on, antiskid on.

I can trim in nose up I can see it on the gauge. I started In instructor mode and didn't receive any messages or feedback. Flaps down seems to put drive the phantom into the ground on the takeoff roll.

Flaps up the plane is stuck to the ground and will not lift off no matter how much pitch in or back pressure. As a test I slewed up several thousand feet AGL and the plane just flips over and over.

Is there a joystick calibration in the Milviz addons?

Thanks for your help!

Alvaro
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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by Alvaro » Sun May 28, 2017 11:00 pm

Ryano42 wrote: I started In instructor mode and didn't receive any messages or feedback
It confirms the ADV module is not loaded.
All the issues you see are the result.

Have you perform any change in the files or folders after the installation is finished?

Ryano42
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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by Ryano42 » Mon May 29, 2017 7:18 pm

No changes made, tried to install again as Admin, same behavior as before.

Thanks again for the feedback!

JonathanBleeker
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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by JonathanBleeker » Mon May 29, 2017 7:42 pm

If you go to the Event Viewer, are there any errors involving FSX/P3D and F-4/MV dlls?

Ryano42
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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by Ryano42 » Mon May 29, 2017 8:10 pm

Nothing install related in the Event Viewer, just the App Hangs for FSX.

Using FSX Acceleration

Alvaro
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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by Alvaro » Tue May 30, 2017 6:13 am

Don't know if you've already tried it, but please, disable any addon except the f4E (accusim, ASN, etc).

Sorry, I have to ask again: no files nor folders edition after installation, right?

(The fsx + acc is tested and 100% compatible. Actually, two days ago I was debugging the f4e ADV Service pack in that specific version...)
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Alvaro
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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by Alvaro » Tue May 30, 2017 9:50 am

Also, please check you can find a file named F4_mod.dll in the F4 panel folder.

In any case, reinstall all the files but before make sure you had temporaly disabled all your anti-virus/anti-spam etc....the same when you launch Fsx

If the ADV module is not loaded then, either something is corrupted in your fsx installation or "something" in your machine is preventing all addon files being loaded.

Sorry, but if this does not work I'm afraid there is nothing more we can do on our side :(

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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by JonathanBleeker » Tue May 30, 2017 10:12 am

There is one other thing I just thought of...When you find the F4_mod.dll, right click on it and select properties. Check if there is an Unblock button. If there is, click it.

Ryano42
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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by Ryano42 » Tue May 30, 2017 3:50 pm

I will give these a try tonight! Thanks!

Just in case, is there a way to roll back the F-4E Advanced? I am not asking for a refund it just doesn't work for me I guess...I've got a lot of your aircraft and I am very happy with them. I just would like to Phly the Phantom in any configuration even the old one! :D

JonathanBleeker
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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by JonathanBleeker » Tue May 30, 2017 5:25 pm

Uninstall the F-4E and reinstall without installing the ADV.

Ryano42
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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by Ryano42 » Wed May 31, 2017 4:00 am

Tried everything...no joy. :(

Thanks for your help...

JonathanBleeker
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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by JonathanBleeker » Wed May 31, 2017 9:14 am

You having problems rolling back to the non ADV?

Ryano42
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Re: Trouble Taking Off.

Post by Ryano42 » Wed May 31, 2017 4:02 pm

I've looked everywhere in my backups for the main F-4E installer zip file and I can't find it. :oops:

I guess I am not intended to fly the f-4 anymore. :( I got it through fspilotshop.com and I my downloads have apparently expired.

Maybe it's a sign I need to migrate to P3D v4 finally! :|

I have the t-38, the f-86, Hughes 500, the p-38 and the f-15e to keep me busy in the meantime! And yes I have all those backed up!!!


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