Stuck in Place on Runway post 3.180904 Install

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haroldeh
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Stuck in Place on Runway post 3.180904 Install

Post by haroldeh » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:48 pm

Uninstalled prev version and installed this new one. Aircraft loads fine and appears to be functioning properly. Increase throttles to max and a/c is stuck in place, does not move forward but the airspeed gauge shows gradually increasing airspeed.

Uninstalled this vers and installed previous (3.180412) and the plane flies at it should. Loaded th a/c at the same airport/runway as with the other problematic version.


Harold

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Aircraft: 310R Redux
Sim platform: P3D v.4
Operating system: Win7
Version: 3.180904
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N4GIX
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Re: Stuck in Place on Runway post 3.180904 Install

Post by N4GIX » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:51 pm

Did you release the parking brakes? If still on, the aircraft will remain in place.

haroldeh
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Re: Stuck in Place on Runway post 3.180904 Install

Post by haroldeh » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:58 am

Yes, confirmed the parking brake knob was all the way in (off). Cycled the parking brake. Left it off. Brakes are off though I have no movement of the rudder pedals. Full throttle. Engine rev'd up. The airspeed gradually increased to 100 (before I pulled the throttle back) all while still sitting in the same spot on the runway.

Also cannot slew the aircraft. Tried several airports and different runways.

Is there an anchor that needs to be hauled in? Or maybe there's an anchor AND an airspeed gauge problem???

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Re: Stuck in Place on Runway post 3.180904 Install

Post by N4GIX » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:46 am

When the parking brake is set, the following events are set true (lat, long, and attitude. This will prevent slewing. The els{ condition resets those three events to false:

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    (A:BRAKE PARKING POSITION,percent) 0 >
    if{ 1 (>K:FREEZE_LATITUDE_LONGITUDE_SET) 1 (>K:FREEZE_ATTITUDE_SET) }
    els{ 0 (>K:FREEZE_LATITUDE_LONGITUDE_SET) 0 (>K:FREEZE_ATTITUDE_SET) }
    
Look in the ..\panel\TW_XMLGauge folder, and find the above three lines (line 128, 129, and 130).

Replace the above with this to disable that part of the script. Let me know if it works for you now.

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    <!-- THIS DISABLES THE LAT/LONG/ATTITUDE FREEZE
    (A:BRAKE PARKING POSITION,percent) 0 &gt;
    if{ 1 (>K:FREEZE_LATITUDE_LONGITUDE_SET) 1 (>K:FREEZE_ATTITUDE_SET) }
    els{ 0 (>K:FREEZE_LATITUDE_LONGITUDE_SET) 0 (>K:FREEZE_ATTITUDE_SET) }
    -->
    

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Re: Stuck in Place on Runway post 3.180904 Install

Post by haroldeh » Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:07 am

My ..\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\SimObjects\Airplanes\MV_C310R\panel folder does not have a TW_XMLGauge folder in it.

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Re: Stuck in Place on Runway post 3.180904 Install

Post by Krazycolin » Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:09 am

Did you disable your av prior to downloading and installing?

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Re: Stuck in Place on Runway post 3.180904 Install

Post by ojsron1948 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:15 am

Shift 3----remove shocks then you`r off ;)

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Re: Stuck in Place on Runway post 3.180904 Install

Post by SAWT » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:28 am

I have the same problem and in addition if I start a flight in the air the aircraft does not move although it makes all the usual in-flight sounds.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled the previous version which works correctly.

AV was disabled during download and install

haroldeh
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Re: Stuck in Place on Runway post 3.180904 Install

Post by haroldeh » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:34 pm

Krazycolin wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:09 am
Did you disable your av prior to downloading and installing?
Yes.

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Re: Stuck in Place on Runway post 3.180904 Install

Post by N4GIX » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:44 pm

haroldeh wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:07 am
My ..\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\SimObjects\Airplanes\MV_C310R\panel folder does not have a TW_XMLGauge folder in it.
Oops! My Bad. That should have been ..\C310_XMLGauge folder!

haroldeh
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Re: Stuck in Place on Runway post 3.180904 Install

Post by haroldeh » Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:56 pm

N4GIX wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:44 pm
haroldeh wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:07 am
My ..\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\SimObjects\Airplanes\MV_C310R\panel folder does not have a TW_XMLGauge folder in it.
Oops! My Bad. That should have been ..\C310_XMLGauge folder!
I found similar (but not exact) code in the C310-Logic.xml file in that folder:

(A:BRAKE PARKING POSITION,percent) 0 &gt;
(A:SIM ON GROUND,bool) and
(L:C310_Chocks,bool) 1 == or
if{ 1 (>K:FREEZE_LATITUDE_LONGITUDE_SET) 1 (>K:FREEZE_ATTITUDE_SET) }
els{ 0 (>K:FREEZE_LATITUDE_LONGITUDE_SET) 0 (>K:FREEZE_ATTITUDE_SET) }

I commented around that code:

<!--
(A:BRAKE PARKING POSITION,percent) 0 &gt;
(A:SIM ON GROUND,bool) and
(L:C310_Chocks,bool) 1 == or
if{ 1 (>K:FREEZE_LATITUDE_LONGITUDE_SET) 1 (>K:FREEZE_ATTITUDE_SET) }
els{ 0 (>K:FREEZE_LATITUDE_LONGITUDE_SET) 0 (>K:FREEZE_ATTITUDE_SET) }
-->

Success! I can now fly the a/c.

Thanks,
Harold

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Re: Stuck in Place on Runway post 3.180904 Install

Post by haroldeh » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:02 pm

Further checking reveals the aircraft is now defaulting to having the chocks set and they have to be removed before flying. I re-enabled the previous code and removed the chocks and the aircraft will now move -- however, it still begs the question of why the airspeed indicator (and maybe other gauges) think the airplane is moving.

Also amazing how strong those chocks are to hold back a twin engine aircraft at full throttle!


Harold

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Re: Stuck in Place on Runway post 3.180904 Install

Post by N4GIX » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:40 am

haroldeh wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:02 pm
Also amazing how strong those chocks are to hold back a twin engine aircraft at full throttle!
I coded it this way in order to prevent the aircraft from "running away" when doing mag checks, etc. Brakes in both FSX and P3D don't hold worth a hoot! :(

I'm sorry I completely forgot that I had coded the system to use chocks also. ;)


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