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I have no clue if this involves my XML's which seem to be giving my sim a problem at the moment but.
The starter and booster coil do not work on my beaver, I have a known issue where the starter can be click and it sounds like its trying to turn over the engine but only makes the sound for approximately one second which leaves my alternator and warning lights blinking rapidly.

Now for my manifold pressure gauge it will read approx 20 PSI on the guage when the engine is off and not running as soon i attempt to start it or use the auto start keys it steadily drops to 0 PSI and never rises while engine is running or in flight.

Could some one please help me with this I've already kicked my aerosoft beaver to the curb for this one but id just like to get it running. Im using FSX:SE had box but uninstalled it as of recent thanks in advance!

you say you have a "known" issue... who has this issue other than you?

If your MP drops to 0 then you have a problem with XMLTool.dll and/or its reference in DLL.XML

Check that DLL.XML contains an entry for XMLTools, and also that XMLTools.dll is present in FSX main folder

Tom

Krazycolin wrote:you say you have a "known" issue... who has this issue other than you?

i remember readin about some one else having a issue with the starter and when clicked it fails to start the engine and only makes a short sound and just stops.

Hello All,
I've got the same problem with the Beaver not starting and 0 Manifold Pressure. I'm running P3dv3.4. I checked the P3d directory and have a listing for "XMLTools3D.dll" there. When I check my P3dv3.4 dll.xml, all I have showing is...:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>
<SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">
<Descr>Launch</Descr>
<Filename>dll.xml</Filename>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>
<Launch.Addon>
<Name>ObjectFlow</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>D:\P3D\ORBX\FTX_AU\FTXAA_ORBXLIBS\Scenery\ObjectFlow_P3D.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>
</SimBase.Document>

I did notice that the installer for the XMLTools gave some type of error message when I first ran the program, but I did not understand it. If someone can send me the correct dll entry I can enter it manually and see if that works. I've try reinstalling a couple of times (yes with Kaspery Anti Virus off), but it didn't change anything.
I am a computer novice, but just trying to help, so if my manual dll entry thing won't work....don't laugh at me too loud.
Dean Poos
Windows 10, P3dv3.4+hotfixes

I have the same problem with starting. I click the starter, and usually I get a couple seconds of engine cranking noise, very little prop movement (less than half a rotation) and lights blinking, then the starter switch snaps back to off. With persistence I can eventually get it to start by clicking and holding the starter a few times. I usually end up using ctrl E for now though.
FSXA, Win 7, no errors during install.

I have a similar issue too, coupled with no switch or lever sounds.
I do the fuel pressurization and priming (in silence), and then when I select the "Starter" switch, I get a click/clunk noise the red and yellow warning lights start flashing and the starter disengages, with no prop rotation. If I start the engine using CTRL+E then the engine runs, but I get no oil pressure and the oil light stays on. My manifold pressure remains at zero too.
I have selected cold and dark start with all the covers on, if that makes any difference.
I was wondering if the oil can affair that is visible with the cockpit cover installed has any bearing on the oil contents, but can find no reference to be able to top up the oil level etc (A2A style) in the manual.
I hope a resolution is forthcoming soon as this issue has tarnished by "shiny new airplane" experience.

poosd wrote: If someone can send me the correct dll entry I can enter it manually and see if that works.

Hi,

Use this:

<Launch.Addon>
<Name>XMLTools3D</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>XMLTools3D.dll</Path>
<DllStartName>module_init</DllStartName>
<DllStopName>module_deinit</DllStopName>
</Launch.Addon>

Also check your Redistributables. See this thread:

http://milviz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=7680

Tom

Manually adding the XML tools entry in the dll.xml as resolved the starter and manifold pressure gauges issue for me.

im running FSX:SE

Taguilo wrote:

poosd wrote: If someone can send me the correct dll entry I can enter it manually and see if that works.

Hi,
Use this:

<Launch.Addon>
<Name>XMLTools3D</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>XMLTools3D.dll</Path>
<DllStartName>module_init</DllStartName>
<DllStopName>module_deinit</DllStopName>
</Launch.Addon>

Also check your Redistributables. See this thread:
http://milviz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=7680

Tom

That dll insert fixed the problem for me thanks Tom.
Gary

bruggenbill wrote:I have a similar issue too, coupled with no switch or lever sounds.
I do the fuel pressurization and priming (in silence), and then when I select the "Starter" switch, I get a click/clunk noise the red and yellow warning lights start flashing and the starter disengages, with no prop rotation. If I start the engine using CTRL+E then the engine runs, but I get no oil pressure and the oil light stays on. My manifold pressure remains at zero too.
I have selected cold and dark start with all the covers on, if that makes any difference.
I was wondering if the oil can affair that is visible with the cockpit cover installed has any bearing on the oil contents, but can find no reference to be able to top up the oil level etc (A2A style) in the manual.
I hope a resolution is forthcoming soon as this issue has tarnished by "shiny new airplane" experience.

I managed to fix my issued in FSX-SE by removing the "3D" from the end of "XMLTools3D" entry as shown below, and inserting it into my dll.xml file.

<Launch.Addon>
<Name>XMLTools</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>XMLTools.dll</Path>
<DllStartName>module_init</DllStartName>
<DllStopName>module_deinit</DllStopName>
</Launch.Addon>

I am assuming the 3D refers to p3D and I therefore assume the installer only installs this into P3D installations, with "XMLTools" being installed in FSX and FSX-SE installations.

All my gauges appear to work now and the starter actually turns the prop so I can start the engine without "CTRL+E".
Hurrah.

bruggenbill wrote:

bruggenbill wrote:I have a similar issue too, coupled with no switch or lever sounds.
I do the fuel pressurization and priming (in silence), and then when I select the "Starter" switch, I get a click/clunk noise the red and yellow warning lights start flashing and the starter disengages, with no prop rotation. If I start the engine using CTRL+E then the engine runs, but I get no oil pressure and the oil light stays on. My manifold pressure remains at zero too.
I have selected cold and dark start with all the covers on, if that makes any difference.
I was wondering if the oil can affair that is visible with the cockpit cover installed has any bearing on the oil contents, but can find no reference to be able to top up the oil level etc (A2A style) in the manual.
I hope a resolution is forthcoming soon as this issue has tarnished by "shiny new airplane" experience.

I managed to fix my issued in FSX-SE by removing the "3D" from the end of "XMLTools3D" entry as shown below, and inserting it into my dll.xml file.

<Launch.Addon>
<Name>XMLTools</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>XMLTools.dll</Path>
<DllStartName>module_init</DllStartName>
<DllStopName>module_deinit</DllStopName>
</Launch.Addon>

I am assuming the 3D refers to p3D and I therefore assume the installer only installs this into P3D installations, with "XMLTools" being installed in FSX and FSX-SE installations.

All my gauges appear to work now and the starter actually turns the prop so I can start the engine without "CTRL+E".
Hurrah.

I've fixed it with nearly the same path actually now as to the weather radars functionality ill have to see.

Running FSXA. Had the same issue. Hadn't registered yet for support forum so was "on my own" as it were.

I got a semi error message at install saying that it could not find the DLL.xml file…don't know why, as it is in the standard folder where the FSAX install placed it…regardless.

I made an entry in the DLL.XML but aside from giving me the WX radar (do they really have those in Otters?) it didn't work - I ended up starting with the engine running or Ctrl E.

Symptoms: Starter INOP (single click), Manifold pressure worked for a bit - then 0, Cylinder Head Temp 0º. The Fuel/Oil tried-gauge was interesting. It would show the fuel pressure rise with the wobble pump, but once the engine started, it went to 0. The Oil pressure gauge didn't really work and Fuel temp never worked. (My initial work around was to pull the Fuel Pressure and Oil pressure warning light circuit breakers to get rid of the lights…pretty sure that's frowned upon.)

then I added lines to make the entry look like the one Tom provided:

Specifically:
<DllStartName>module_init</DllStartName>
<DllStopName>module_deinit</DllStopName>

That evidently did the trick.

Cheers!
Will