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Popup-terrain-GPS needed - Feature request
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:32 pm
by rudi0310
Hi all,
thanks a lot for this great plane, which I really enjoy.
I would find it useful for mountain ranges to have a GPS showing terrain with color coded altitude. GPS like the Flight1 GTN750 are no solution, they use their own databases as far as I know. Some airports which are included in scenery addons are missing. And do not show up in GPS for that reason. And vice versa.
I failed when adding a simple window entry to panel.cfg to add a standard GPS500 like I did for older FSX aircraft (other vendors) several times.
In future service packs you might consider to add a Standard GPS or another solution which
- uses database from SIM
- shows terrain, altitude color coded
- available as popup
I use P3D v2 and in the future v4.
Cheers
Rudi
Re: Popup-terrain-GPS needed - Feature request
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:57 pm
by N4GIX
Actually, our version of the GNS530 is based on the sim data. More to the point it is a grandchild of the default sim's G500 gauge...
Several years ago I added "terrain shading" to the GNS530 only to discover that it tanked FPS in the sim to the point of distraction, so I reverted the additions. Even so, our GNS530/430 have far more functionality than the default G500.
If you have a popup window from another aircraft, it is easily added to your panel.cfg file(s). Simply substitute the G500 with our GNS530 since it is a direct replacement.
Re: Popup-terrain-GPS needed - Feature request
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:36 pm
by rudi0310
Hi Bill,
thanks a lot for the response. The built in GPS has many advantages and much more functionality, and a crisper display.
That it uses the built in sim data is perfect for me, my posting might be confusing in that point.
What a pity that your terrain shading costed too much fps, but I agree, that would not be a solution.
Because I do not want to loose the built in GPS, substituting in panel.cfg might not be perfect for me. I would prefer to have
the G500 only as a popup version to show terrain, not built in in the aircraft. I never had the intention to suggest that you replace your famous GPS completely, yours is much better.
Cheers and thanks again
Rudi
Re: Popup-terrain-GPS needed - Feature request
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:49 pm
by N4GIX
You have misunderstood my suggestion. You can easily have the GNS530 as a popup also, not instead of...
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[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Panel
Window01=GPS
//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1280,650
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=2
visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
window_size= 0.710, 0.552
window_pos= 0.290, 0.480
gauge00=C310_XMLGauges!FBS_GNS530_1d, 0,0,640,468
Re: Popup-terrain-GPS needed - Feature request
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:43 am
by rudi0310
Hi Bill,
that is exact what I not dared to ask for, many thanks!
Due to my limited knowledge before I had the wrong
But unfortunately your version doesn´t work, same error. Instead of GPS the (disabled) wx radar pops up. Key assignment seems to be defined elsewhere? Had copied entire code from your posting.
I even tried to use a free key:
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[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Panel
Window01=
Window02=GPS
...
[Window01]
gauge01=
[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1280,650
...
I hope this syntax is OK, but does not work with shift 2 also
Cheers
Rudi
Re: Popup-terrain-GPS needed - Feature request
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:50 pm
by N4GIX
There are many different panel.cfg files used, each based on the choices made in the MVAMS "GPS" options. This is directly from my sim's root ..\panel\panel.cfg file and works 100% for me using Shift-2 to open it:
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[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Panel
Window01=GNS530
[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=8.000, 0.000, 0.000
//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=208,129
position=8
visible=0
ident=MAIN_PANEL
//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=500,366
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=20
window_size= 0.380, 0.440
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000
gauge00=Milviz_GPS!FBS_GNS530_1d, 0,0,500,366
The [WindowNN] number +1 corresponds to the Shift-N key required. In this example [Window01] + 1 = Shift-2
If the panel.cfg you are using already has an entry for [Window01], then you would simply use the next available number (such as [Window02]).
[Window02] size_mm=456,378 window_size=0.30 position=8 BACKG
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:46 am
by rudi0310
Hi Bill,
now I got it!
I use "Milviz 530/430" in the MVAMS options, so I had to change panel.cfg in folder
SimObjects\Airplanes\DHC-2 Beaver Milviz\panel.mv530_430
I changed code to get default GPS500 as popup which shows terrain. And can have both now. MilViz GNS530 in front panel, default terrain-GPS500 as popup.
Having 2 different GPS in one aircraft configs, can this lead to problems? In this case I will have to use MVAMS option "GPS-none" instead. And would have to modify panel.cfg in folder
SimObjects\Airplanes\DHC-2 Beaver Milviz\panel
Then only default GPS would be available, and popup only.
Thanks a lot for your patience and your kind help, Bill!
Rudi (callsign D-L-1-U-Z)
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Relevant code for other people who want to have that also, shift 3 has to be used to open popup:
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[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Panel
Window01=WX Radar
Window02=GPS500
... (non relevant code not shown)
[Window02]
size_mm=456,378
window_size=0.30
position=8
BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,0
VISIBLE=0
ident=GPS500
gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500, 0,0
Re: Popup-terrain-GPS needed - Feature request
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:38 am
by BSM
I have tried the same as Rudi, and got it working but using the
gauge00=C310_XMLGauges!FBS_GNS530_1d, 0,0,640,468
for the Milviz GPS does not work, just briefly shows a box and disappears....
not sure what that is about but the
gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500, 0,0
works OK.
Brian
Re: Popup-terrain-GPS needed - Feature request
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:45 pm
by N4GIX
rudi0310 wrote:
In future service packs you might consider to add a Standard GPS or another solution which
- uses database from SIM
- shows terrain, altitude color coded
- available as popup
I just realized that I never did address this part of your post, for which I deeply apologize.
I could quite easily add "terrain" to this version of the GNS530, as indeed it once did. I removed the "terrain" feature one and only one reason: the real world GNS530 doesn't include this feature. As we were trying to faithfully replicate Ken Stalling's real-world C310R as closely as possible, we opted for reality in our avionics.
