Trouble with Engine Start from Cold and Dark

[PurdueKev]

I am not having any success with the engine start up procedure from Cold and Dark...

I have only been successful starting the Huey from Cold and Dark on one occasion - all of the other times (probably over 8-10 times now), the engines will spool up to 40% rpm and N1 stabilizes at about 65, but then when I rotate the throttle with my mouse the rpm does not change at all (rpm stuck at around 40%, no change in engine sound, rpm warning is sounding if you turn the rpm audio back on). As I said, only once following the startup sequence in the Guide has it worked properly where the rpm will spool up when advancing the throttle. She runs and flys just fine when I load as Ready to Fly (set in MVAMS).
I deleted all of my saved flights and loaded using just the default P3D flight, but that doesn't seem to be making a difference (the one time it worked I loaded the default flight from the Scenario screen, just changing the aircraft to the Huey before loading. I have tried loading the default F22 first and then switching to the Huey, as well as loading directly - neither seem to make a difference).
I also deleted the FSUIPC profile and started from a fresh profile with only the collective (throttle) and cyclic (ailerons and elevatros) mapped, and all other axis and button assignments in the P3D controllers deleted, just to make sure there wasn't a button assignment or axis that was getting in the way. Collective is fine, my collective controller operates the Huey collective just fine.
What is the preferred way to load the Huey from the scenario screen?

[Dutch]

Give this a try. Set the RPM to max when you do the start rather than min. That's not proper procedure for the Huey but it should work, and if it doesn't it gives us a hint about what could be wrong.

Thanks
Dutch

[PurdueKev]

Give this a try. Set the RPM to max when you do the start rather than min. That's not proper procedure for the Huey but it should work, and if it doesn't it gives us a hint about what could be wrong.

Thanks
Dutch

Thanks, I will try that this evening - that means I should set the twist throttle to full rather than idle prior to hitting the starter, correct?

[PurdueKev]

Tried to start with the throttle rotated full left (when looking down at it; clockwise if you looked at it end-on), and nothing at all happens when I hit the starter - no spool up or anything. When I rotate the throttle back a bit to the right (towards Idle position), eventually I find a spot where the starter will engage and the engine will begin to spool up, but I get the same behavior as before - the rpm won't go above 40 no matter what.

I also notice that N1 is going up a lot faster for me than the rpm, compared to the demo video I saw on Youtube (on the video, N1 takes about twice as long to get up to 40% than it is for me). I don't know if that is significant or not.

At any rate, still can't get her started from Cold and Dark.

[Dutch]

Interesting, and unusual. I've not seen anything quite like this before, so we're experimenting here.

Now try this:

When the RPM is stuck at 40, and the N1 is higher, press the key combination ctrl-F4 on your keyboard. This sets propeller RPM to max.

See if that jumps your RPM, or not.

Dutch

[PurdueKev]

Interesting, and unusual. I've not seen anything quite like this before, so we're experimenting here.

Now try this:

When the RPM is stuck at 40, and the N1 is higher, press the key combination ctrl-F4 on your keyboard. This sets propeller RPM to max.

See if that jumps your RPM, or not.

Dutch

OK, hitting ctrl-F4 does spool up the engine sound now as I would expect, though rotor rpm indicator doesn't move past 40. This is with the throttle grip in the sim still set at idle. When I then rotate the throttle grip with my mouse, I can now move the rotor rpm indicator up into the green, and I was able to take off and fly around. It seems that rotating the throttle grip isn't changing the engine sound at all though, just the rpm indicator gauge? I can rotate the throttle grip back and forth and move the rpm needle up and down from 40 to green range and back, but it doesn't seem like anything is happening to the engine itself.

[PurdueKev]

Any further guidance here? It still does not seem like this is working properly.

[Dutch]

OK, hitting ctrl-F4 does spool up the engine sound now as I would expect, though rotor rpm indicator doesn't move past 40. This is with the throttle grip in the sim still set at idle. When I then rotate the throttle grip with my mouse, I can now move the rotor rpm indicator up into the green, and I was able to take off and fly around. It seems that rotating the throttle grip isn't changing the engine sound at all though, just the rpm indicator gauge? I can rotate the throttle grip back and forth and move the rpm needle up and down from 40 to green range and back, but it doesn't seem like anything is happening to the engine itself.

The RPM gauge measures the actual RPM, and if you can fly without the annoying alarm screaming at you then it's in the green range.

The sound not changing is utterly bizarre. You should definitely hear a quickening of the engine and an increase in volume as you rotate the throttle upwards and vice versa. In fact that is tied to the engine RPM deep within the sim - we aren't controlling that from the gauges or systems at all. It's all controlled from the sound.cfg file located in the sound folder, and I have never heard of a situation where somehow the sim doesn't follow that file if it's there and the sounds associated with it are there. I suspect it's stuck on max and isn't going down rather than not going up. Is there any way you could capture a video so I could hear it so as to be sure?

I'm doing some googling to see if I can come up with something. No further guidance until then I'm afraid.

Dutch

[PurdueKev]

I will try some more testing this weekend, and see if I can figure out a way to capture video - sorry, was not able to sim much since your reply.

Also, I just want to ensure what is the appropriate way to load the Huey - do I need to load a default aircraft first with engines running and then switch? I am not always sure which aircraft require this process.

[Krazycolin]

Yes. Load an AC with engines running. Preferably, a default.