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1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:34 pm
by matpietsch
I have installed the latest Beta into p3dv5 and it seems to work okish but I have not cockpit light also also the annunciator panel is dark. I assume it is real light that is messed up. A uninstall and reinstall did not solve the issue. Real light is being installed though. Any ideas? :)

Re: 1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:50 pm
by alex.767
Same issue here in V5.

Re: 1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:52 pm
by Slayer
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Unable to duplicate, working fine here. I have render to transparent turned off otherwise I don't have enough memory.

Re: 1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:04 pm
by Slayer
After a bit more playing:

When I put legacy render files in , I didn't have lights. I toggled render to transparent in MVAMS and saved, then turned back off and saved. Lights are working. May have been a coincidence but give that a shot. Also make sure your master panel light switch is on. Mine isn't saving the state of that switch from flight to flight ( don't know if it's supposed to)

Re: 1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:13 pm
by alex.767
Slayer wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:04 pm
After a bit more playing:

When I put legacy render files in , I didn't have lights. I toggled render to transparent in MVAMS and saved, then turned back off and saved. Lights are working. May have been a coincidence but give that a shot. Also make sure your master panel light switch is on. Mine isn't saving the state of that switch from flight to flight ( don't know if it's supposed to)
No dice.

Re: 1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:17 pm
by matpietsch
What does render to transparent actually do? It is just a nam who me but no explanation was ever provided that I know of.

Also it would be nice to know what the legacy render mode should be used for :).

Re: 1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:51 pm
by gboag.mach2
Same on my end (P3Dv5) - I have no panel lights at all.
- Tried the "normal" files and the legacy rendering files, zero difference.
- Uninstalled/reinstalled the 350i
- tried the transparent rendering on/off
- single GTX GPU (so no SLI)

Screenshot with all cockpit lights on/maxed: https://prnt.sc/tkri64
With daylight, this is the overhead: https://prnt.sc/tkriug

Re: 1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:11 pm
by matpietsch
Slayer wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:52 pm
2020-7-19_7-49-46-128.jpg

Unable to duplicate, working fine here. I have render to transparent turned off otherwise I don't have enough memory.
Tried your suggestions (same as gboag.mach2) but it did not work. This has to be a real light issue.
Running a pretty new p3v5 HF2 with a GTX 1070 with up to date drivers. No shader modifications.

Re: 1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:38 am
by gboag.mach2
matpietsch wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:11 pm
This has to be a real light issue.
Running a pretty new p3v5 HF2 with a GTX 1070 with up to date drivers. No shader modifications.
Since i don't have that issue with other planes (MD80, A320, 737, 747), it has to be a reallight issue.

Also running p3dv5 hf2 and a gtx1070 Btw.

And trueglas us disabled on my end, that thing sucks way too much vram (!) - Observed on the md80 and now on the 350i. >2gb vram for trueglas is too much.

Re: 1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:38 am
by Slayer
Please try running reallight installer from command prompt with /beta as an argument

Installer is in:
\Prepar3Dv5\SimObjects\Airplanes\MV_King_Air_350i\Redistributables

Re: 1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:53 am
by Slayer
matpietsch wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:17 pm
What does render to transparent actually do? It is just a nam who me but no explanation was ever provided that I know of.

Also it would be nice to know what the legacy render mode should be used for :).
LegacyRender replaces the PDK rendering system with the older gauges system - lower quality/lower performance, but more compatible (SLI, V5/Win7)

Panel.NoTransparent.cfg (rename to panel.cfg)
NoTransparent removes TrueGlass and the textures it creates

Re: 1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:32 am
by matpietsch
Ok so this is not an option as I need true glass.
So what’s next? The plane is not working as with no lights and no indicator panel it is pretty much useless. All of them are tied to real lights which is not working.

Re: 1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:01 pm
by Slayer
matpietsch wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:32 am
Ok so this is not an option as I need true glass.
So what’s next? The plane is not working as with no lights and no indicator panel it is pretty much useless. All of them are tied to real lights which is not working.
Did you try what I posted 2 posts back? You can also rerun the trueglass installer with the /beta flag

Re: 1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:50 pm
by matpietsch
Slayer wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:01 pm
matpietsch wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:32 am
Ok so this is not an option as I need true glass.
So what’s next? The plane is not working as with no lights and no indicator panel it is pretty much useless. All of them are tied to real lights which is not working.
Did you try what I posted 2 posts back? You can also rerun the trueglass installer with the /beta flag
Yep, I did. As the other user also did. No difference unfortunately (transparent surfaces on or off).
Where can I find the independent real light installer?

Re: 1.1.33 Beta - No cockpit lights

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:17 pm
by Slayer
matpietsch wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:50 pm
Slayer wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:01 pm
matpietsch wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:32 am
Ok so this is not an option as I need true glass.
So what’s next? The plane is not working as with no lights and no indicator panel it is pretty much useless. All of them are tied to real lights which is not working.
Did you try what I posted 2 posts back? You can also rerun the trueglass installer with the /beta flag
Yep, I did. As the other user also did. No difference unfortunately (transparent surfaces on or off).
Where can I find the independent real light installer?
matpietsch wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:50 pm
Slayer wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:01 pm
matpietsch wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:32 am
Ok so this is not an option as I need true glass.
So what’s next? The plane is not working as with no lights and no indicator panel it is pretty much useless. All of them are tied to real lights which is not working.
Did you try what I posted 2 posts back? You can also rerun the trueglass installer with the /beta flag
Yep, I did. As the other user also did. No difference unfortunately (transparent surfaces on or off).
Where can I find the independent real light installer?
Prepar3Dv5\SimObjects\Airplanes\MV_King_Air_350i\Redistributables