Power Lever Issues [Resolved - XMLTools]

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Power Lever Issues [Resolved - XMLTools]

Post by johnh » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:07 am

OK, so I have been having some issues with the Power Levers. I have two Saitek Throttle Quadrants and they are both USB.

In P3Dv4.5HF3 if I assign the Throttle Axis to either lever (X or Y) of TQ1 it will operate through the full range (Full Reverse - Full Power) though obviously with BOTH Power Levers.

If I try to set up the individual levers (Engine 1/2 Throttle Axis) then there is NO response from the Power Levers. Even though the only thing that has changed is the Axis assignments.

I have worked through this post (viewtopic.php?f=105&t=12230) and all the links provided within and everything appears to be set correctly.

I have previously tried to configure with Spad.Next but I have now disabled Spad.Next for this aircraft.

Any ideas?

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Re: Power Lever Issues

Post by Slayer » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:45 pm

If you had previously configured axis in MVAMS after changing assignments in P3D you will need to change those as well.

You can delete axis.cfg from C:\Users\<YOURUSERNAME>\AppData\Local\MVAMS\Configurations\KingAir350i and try again. File will regenerate.

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Re: Power Lever Issues

Post by johnh » Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:29 am

Thanks for you reply Steve,
I have deleted the axis.cfg as you suggested but my main problem remains. In P3D|Options|Axis Assignments if I assign TQ1 (I have two TQ) X Axis to Engine 1 throttle axis and Y Axis to Engine 2 throttle axis there is no response from the Power Levers in the aircraft. So I haven't even tried to reconfigure MVAMS.

However if I assign the X Axis to Throttle axis then both Power Levers move. And I can then use MVAMS to set the full range of motion.

I would like for the ability to have separate controls for both Power Levers to work and I am sure that others do have it working - so why won't mine work? Is it because I have two USB Saitek TQ's (instead of the more usual one PS2 TQ (attached to the Yoke) and one USB TQ?

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Re: Power Lever Issues

Post by Slayer » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:17 pm

Im wondering if that is indeed the issue. Do you have any other twin engine aircraft you are able to verify if it works correctly on? Also have you tried Directinput mode for your controls. Default is set to raw in P3D

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Re: Power Lever Issues

Post by johnh » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:36 am

Yes to both questions!

I have the Aerosoft Twotter, RealAir Turbine Duke as well as twin engine jets and they all work.

Raw or Direct Input makes no difference.

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Re: Power Lever Issues

Post by Slayer » Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:12 pm

Asking the devs to review this. Thanks for your patience.

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Re: Power Lever Issues

Post by Slayer » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:28 pm

Harry is this purchased from Orbx? We've had a few cases of XMLtools not getting installed this would cause the levers not to move. Can you go to the MV KA350i folder in P3D/simobjects/ in it is a redistributables folder, in there you will find the XMLtools installer. Please run that and see if the problem is relsolved. Thanks

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Re: Power Lever Issues

Post by johnh » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:50 am

Thanks Steve!

It was NOT purchased from ORBX. I am one of the Early Access people and have uninstalled/re-installed every version released.

However, the XMLTools install HAS worked!

To be honest, I was getting to the point where I thought I was going to have to cut my losses after 5 years of keen anticipation!

Now all I need is the full list of EventID's/LVAR's! I have got all the controls around PFD/MFD working I now just need to get these for the RTU and I'll be on FIRE!!!

Will start a new thread for this BUT if you have contacts/access to these would really appreciate your further assistance!

Once again Thank You sooooo much for your assistance!!!

Harry

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Re: Power Lever Issues [Resolved - XMLTools]

Post by ccmh15 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:43 pm

johnh wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:50 am
Now all I need is the full list of EventID's/LVAR's!
There you go.
Cheers,
Chris
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Re: Power Lever Issues [Resolved - XMLTools]

Post by johnh » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:48 am

Thank you very much Chris! Now just have to go through and configure them all :roll:

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Re: Power Lever Issues [Resolved - XMLTools]

Post by johnh » Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:17 am

Hi Chris, I hope you get to see this

Firstly, thanks for the list of LVAR's you sent through in response to my wish.

I just got back last night (I am in New Zealand) and had a quick look at your list and it is very comprehensive!

I don't suppose, though, that you have access to what the codes affect? For example I know that 0x11000 is the PFD LSK1 animation. Also, if possible, do you have the EventID's?

A couple of examples of the programming is below. Both of these press the respective SoftKey and then release it at the end.

PFD LSK1

Set 0x11000 (LVAR) to 1 (presses the PFD LSK1 - an animation effect only)
Set EVENT (LVAR) to 69632 (Sends the actual keypress it is these Events I don't have)
Delay Execution for 200ms
Set 0x11000 (LVAR) to 0 (releases the PFD LSK1 - an animation effect only)

MFD RSK1

Set 0x11014 (LVAR) to 1
Set EVENT (LVAR) to 69636
Delay execution for 200ms
Set 0x11014 (LVAR) to 0

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Re: Power Lever Issues [Resolved - XMLTools]

Post by ccmh15 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:21 am

Go to FSUIPC and enable logging for non-axis events, see screenshot below.
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Then, you get a console window, which shows the corresponding Control ID (decimal and hex) every time you click a button in the Virtual Cockpit. Example in the screenshot is the LSK1 of the PIC PFD you mentioned.
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You don't necessarily need to use all the animation events (that only move the corresponding button in the VC). All button functions work fine even without the animations.

Cheers,
Chris

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Re: Power Lever Issues [Resolved - XMLTools]

Post by johnh » Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:40 am

Thanks Chris!!!! :D

Never really used FSUIPC except as support for software that need it. :oops:

I am now going to try and program all the stuff I want for Spad.Next

And Yes, I realise I don't HAVE to use the animations but I figure if I can (and it doesn't affect anything else!) then I might as well 8-)

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Re: Power Lever Issues [Resolved - XMLTools]

Post by ccmh15 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:13 am

You're welcome! You might want to check out the FSUIPC SDK one day, because a lot of really powerful things are possible - like the ability to run your own LUA scripts natively in the sim.

In my home cockpit setup, I'm able to control every single function of the MVKA using hardware switches, buttons, rotaries, LEDs, displays and so on.

Cheers!
Chris


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