Chart viewer naming convention

[clorix1]

I've been attempting to set up charts for at least my home airport. I have the charts downloaded and converted to images. I'm using the Charts Manager utility to add them. The only one I am able to get working is the airport diagram, but that's because the Charts Manager renames the file itself.

What is the proper naming convention to get the charts working? Keep in mind that these are charts I'm manually adding WITHOUT a Navigraph subscription. I have tried naming each chart to be exactly as it appears in the FMS to no avail. For example, the chart for, say, RNAV (GPS) 07 is named "RNV 07" but it still doesn't appear when I select it in the chart viewer.

Might I suggest an update to the Charts Manager that should make it a breeze to add charts? In my opinion, the Charts Manager should read from the installed Navigraph nav data and present all available procedures. Then, a user would select a chart (PDF or jpg/png) for each procedure. The Charts Manager should then convert a PDF to an image (if necessary) and automatically associate the chart with its respective procedure, doing all the renaming necessary to make it work.

[Slayer]

Development is essentially finished other than bug fixes and porting it over to V5 so it's doubtful that more features will be added.

I believe there is more to it than just adding files/renaming them so the easiest way to get them in there for you to use the manager to import them. If I remember right each procedure /runway gets it's own folders and files when you import them. It may not be obvious but after you add the APD, then you click on the arrow next to ICAO and another sub menu will display where you can add more files by selecting the category, then add the files like this:

apd.JPG (46.79 KiB) Viewed 2063 times

[clorix1]

Hi Steve, thanks for the reply.

I should clarify that's exactly what I was doing with the Charts Manager. I've added each chart by clicking Approaches > Add New Approach. What I'm not understanding (or perhaps just missing) is how to name each of the chart images that I import via the above steps. Like I stated, I've even tried naming them exactly as they appear in the FMS for each approach procedure. The only one that I can get to work is the airport diagram. My assumption is that it works because the Charts Manager software renames the image appropriately (i.e. from "Airport Diagram.png" to "APD.png"). I am unable to get any other chart to work, be it ILS, RNAV, VOR/DME, NDB, or whatever else.

How should I name those chart image files such that they appear in the chart viewer within the aircraft?

[Slayer]

To be honest I don't remember exactly , but when I imported the files they did show up when I was scrolling through in the chart viewer in the aircraft.I do remember if the airport was not in your flight plan as a departure or arrival they wouldn't be available in the chart viewer (even if you had the files in place)

Another user was working on chart packs for the non Navigraph customers , maybe you can private message him and ask how he put his packs together

viewtopic.php?f=104&t=11577

[clorix1]

I did have the airport as my arrival before trying to bring up the charts as I am otherwise unable to select any airport via the MFD's charts menu. Perhaps it's a bug that needs fixing.

I'll try reaching out to that user on the thread you linked. Thanks for pointing me in that direction!

[clorix1]

I got in touch with the user in the thread you linked, but he too was never able to get his charts working. Neither of us know what to try next. Perhaps one of the devs could look into what's wrong, or what we're missing? I'd love to have charts usable for those of us without Navigraph!

[Slayer]

Asking one of the devs to take a look. Thanks for your patience.

[ricardo]

Hello.

Charts must be named exactly like the procedures found in the FMS and can either be JPG or PNG. PDFs are not supported.

I created a departure from SBSP - Sao Paulo Congonhas Airport in order to illustrate the procedure above. The departure chosen was NINVU 3A. When saving the chart to disk, I named it exactly as the procedure found in the FMS (NINV3A):

save chart 1.png (12.63 KiB) Viewed 2008 times

Then I added it using Charts Manager:

save chart 2.png (165.16 KiB) Viewed 2008 times

Which showed up in the MFD when selected:

save chart 3.png (601.84 KiB) Viewed 2008 times

If you need any further assistance, please let me know.

[clorix1]

Hi ricardo, thanks for the reply.

As I said in my original post above, I have tried naming each file exactly as it appears in the FMS, but they still don't appear for me. The airport I'm working with is KFSM. It doesn't have any SIDS or STARS, but has several approaches. All approaches for KFSM appear in the FMS with a space in the name. I will try naming them without that space and see if it works then. The only difference I can see between your example and my attempts are that your DP doesn't have a space in the name.

[clorix1]

Sadly my attempts at removing the spaces from the file names didn't work either. I also converted the charts to PNG after noticing yours was in PNG format. That didn't do the trick either.

Any other suggestions?

[ricardo]

The issue will be fixed in the upcoming Service Pack. Please save your desired charts like they appear in the FMC, i.e. RNV 25 be saved as RNV25.

[clorix1]

Thank you for the update. Looking forward to the service pack!