Beta Range?

[TheLurk]

Hello, not a bug report but a question;

is beta range simulated/setup in such a way that you can get to it without entering the reverser range? A far older addon from another developer nailed the simulation of the PT6s beta range quite perfectly and im currently sorely missing it from the MV bird...

how do you guys do it? any pointers for possible fsuipc axis ranges etc.?

cheers
Tobi

[KenG]

The 350 has a ground fine range and then a reverse range.

AIn the actual airplane you have to lift up once to get into ground fine and lift up a second time (or one big lift) to get into reverse.

I am not sure how to simulate this in P3D.

Few hits of F2 put you in ground fine and a few more puts you into reverse. So maybe a button that you can press multiple times on your throttles?

[Regis9]

The majestic Q400 and FS Labs allow you to configure your throttle axis so that you can set a range for various throttle settings. On the Q400 that includes a ground fine range (it’s called something else on the Q400?) and reverse range. It makes taxiing with the throttle a dream.

On other aircraft I can set a reverse range in the FSUIPC axis calibration that allows me to incrementally apply thrust reverser or reverse range on other turbo props. Using FSUIPC axis calibration doesn’t seem to work on the King Air.

Hopefully a solution can be found other than assigning buttons to the F2 function as that’s a fairly clumsy/ non-precise way to try and control the throttle.

[TheLurk]

yes ground fine is what im talking about, there was a B200 from another developer (but i think we all know) that nailed the simulation of that, i was wondering if something similar could be achieved with the MV bird

[ificratis]

I have the same problem. I have been trying to configure my VirtualFly TQ6 but I couldn't, either with FSUIPC, the VirtualFly application or P3D controls menu.

Milviz should provide us a solution or tutorial of how to calibrate our hardware quadrants with the 350i

[jdwareing]

I have the same problem. I have been trying to configure my VirtualFly TQ6 but I couldn't, either with FSUIPC, the VirtualFly application or P3D controls menu.

Milviz should provide us a solution or tutorial of how to calibrate our hardware quadrants with the 350i

Yeah I am having 0 luck setting up my VF TQ6+. Usually FSUIPC is ez and straight forward seems something is off here. Hoping for a reply or a fix because it seems unflyable at the moment for me.

EDIT: Just to add to this. The only axis on the throttle quadrant stack I can seem to actually get to work are the condition levers.

EDIT #2: I take that back. Condition levers have stopped responding.

EDIT #3: Finally able to have things setup. Now the only thing I am missing is BETA range. What a hassle but I do have my throttle quad working.

[Egoix]

How did you set up your TQ6? i have the same quadrant but i´m unable to make it work. Any hint will be appreciated.

[Regis9]

With the TQ6 I can assign all axes using standard FSUIPC assignments and it will work, but I can not have any FSUIPC calibration in effect or it will not work.

Haven’t found a way to make beta range work with the TQ6 so I’m burning up a lot of brake pads getting to and from the runway.

[JonathanBleeker]

We are looking at providing an internal axis calibration system in the MVAMS that will allow you to set the particular zones of your throttle/prop/condition levers similar to our afterburner threshold setting in our T-38s.

[jdwareing]

We are looking at providing an internal axis calibration system in the MVAMS that will allow you to set the particular zones of your throttle/prop/condition levers similar to our afterburner threshold setting in our T-38s.

I hope this is true. I am going to have to put this in the hangar for the time being. I am having a hell of a time getting my throttle quadrant to work. Sometimes the throttle moves, sometimes it doesn't. As someone using the VF TQ6+ I absolutely need a way to assign the range of my axis or its just a mess and currently its just that, a mess. The small throw in the reverse zone is half throttle then the rest of the axis is the top half and 0 BETA range. I guess I don't get why FSUIPC doesn't even work with it? So many addons out there with tried and true way to handle the throttle axis. I don't get what you were trying to accomplish and how this passed beta. Sorry for being harsh its just very frustrating to drop $80 and end up with this.

[Ephedrin]

We are looking at providing an internal axis calibration system in the MVAMS that will allow you to set the particular zones of your throttle/prop/condition levers similar to our afterburner threshold setting in our T-38s.

I hope this is true. I am going to have to put this in the hangar for the time being. I am having a hell of a time getting my throttle quadrant to work. Sometimes the throttle moves, sometimes it doesn't. As someone using the VF TQ6+ I absolutely need a way to assign the range of my axis or its just a mess and currently its just that, a mess. The small throw in the reverse zone is half throttle then the rest of the axis is the top half and 0 BETA range. I guess I don't get why FSUIPC doesn't even work with it? So many addons out there with tried and true way to handle the throttle axis. I don't get what you were trying to accomplish and how this passed beta. Sorry for being harsh its just very frustrating to drop $80 and end up with this.

I haven't tried it yet and I have different throttles but can't you assign the hardware lever say from 16383 to -2000 (just numbers now) to send to FSUIPC calib "throttles" and calibrate it appropriatley, then a second assignment of the same TQ6 axis from -2000 to -8000 and assign this to the reversers.. I haven't tried it but I do it similarily with other addons that don't come with a calibration tool. It's certainly not ideal but for the time being you could use your throttles.

[redcow]

Hello Ephedrin.

Nope, not working. I have tried that and various other ideas and config options within FSUIPC, no luck at all.
Only way to move into GND idle is using F2.... not ideal and makes no fun to fly like this. Hope that it gets fixed soon.

Bye

Jan

[N4GIX]

I absolutely need a way to assign the range of my axis or its just a mess and currently its just that, a mess.

In the mean time, simply use the F2 key to move into the reverser range, and then the throttle lever(s) to move back to flight idle?

[Regis9]

We are looking at providing an internal axis calibration system in the MVAMS that will allow you to set the particular zones of your throttle/prop/condition levers similar to our afterburner threshold setting in our T-38s.

That would be fantastic!

[Ephedrin]

Hello Ephedrin.

Nope, not working. I have tried that and various other ideas and config options within FSUIPC, no luck at all.
Only way to move into GND idle is using F2.... not ideal and makes no fun to fly like this. Hope that it gets fixed soon.

Bye

Jan

Hi Jan,

right, I've just tried it. The aircraft's levers don't respond anymore if you use the "direct" mode in the FSUIPC calibration. In a that deeply simulated addon that's really sad but hopefully they can work on it. It' s certainly a main feature of the King Air.