KA350i Version 1.1 (SP1) GM (1.1.3) [withdrawn]

[alehead]

The original post has been edited, stating that a re-build will take place after Easter.
I was also hoping to download the latest version just now and install, as I haven't used it at all yet. I have waited this long so far, no problem with a few more days

Stay safe and healthy!

Andrew

[rayharris51]

In case anyone was interested; all sorted.

It wasn't the KA, my Navigraph NAV source data was not properly installed.

Flies like a dream now - provded you manage it carefully - just like the real thing.

No crashes or other obvious issues as far as I can see - on a very simple flight following check lists with SID/STAR flight plan. Radar/Wx Turb and Terrain works great. Good frame rates. FMS and saving flights also good. Displays all seem to be working as they should (superficially at least, as I am not trying anything complex). Can also add a user waypoint with a minus coordinate (ie West longitude) OK. Not using charts in the display as I have FSTramp, plus Navigraph charts on an iPad by my desk.

I did blow an engine and landed on one engine as I had not been taking note of the temperature on climb. The aircraft remained stable as in real life feathered the dead engine - landed with lots of rudder, and we all survived.


Ray

Hi

Thanks for the download. Really worth the wait.

Got one question, which may be nothing to do with the KA per se. I had the same issue before so it’s not specific to this version.

The KAs NAV database appears different to mine. I use FSTramp for flight planning, and have FSAerodata installed.

On reaching my destination I find I am flying approx 0.6 mile off course, but parallel to the FSTramp flight plan. FSTramp is correct and corresponds to my scenery, The KA is not.

I have used the Flight 1 GTN 750 and that is also accurate, as are all my other custom high end planes (FSL Airbus, MJQ400..)

Thanks.

Kind regards

Ray

[rayharris51]

OK, so I was on a 2 hour flight from SAWH to SCRM.

All good until descent with only 40min to go - at around 11,000 the plane went apes***t. The speed tape went red looked like it went to zero suddenly (im pretty sure it was not over speed) and the plane beecame uncontrollable. So had to end the flight.

Picture shows the cockpit immediately after the event happened (before the plane turned upside down and killed everyone and crashed into the Antarctic Ocean.

Was this something to do with the bug that was referred to as the reason why this version was withdrawn - or was it something else?

Ray

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[rayharris51]

Of course it could have been severe icing....?

It was -20C in thick cloud... but there was no kind of warning.

Also the throttle on this version no longer goes into beta range. The previous version did allow that by default.

Ray

[SAS443]

Of course it could have been severe icing....?

It was -20C in thick cloud... but there was no kind of warning.

Also the throttle on this version no longer goes into beta range. The previous version did allow that by default.

Ray

Judging from your screenshot, my theory is this:
You still have IVSI outputs meaning that static pressure is working. But dynamic pressure from pitot tube is missing due to blocked inlet. So your ASI is showing zero since it is comparing the static presurre from the pitot to the static pressure from the static port.

//End of speculation. Or it can be a bug totally unrelated to icing.

[rayharris51]

Hi Thanks

Yes, that’s a good theory for an Air Crash investigation.

If this was a case of severe sudden icing blocking the pitot tubes I’d probably not have stood a chance as all the plane’s systems need this data to function.

unless it is also a bug - when I took it off autopilot the controls had absolutely no effect. Showing my ignorance, does the King Air display icing warnings - in other words is this realistic behaviour?

Ray

[xender]

There's no icing warning. Your only "warning" is a light that illuminates the wings. That way you can see if there's any ice

[bmw969]

Is ice on the wings realized?

[doodlebug]

yes

[matpietsch]

Is ice on the wings realized?

It just seems to happen super rarely as it is tied to the icing condition to be met by the simulator (KenG said so). He also said, that he thinks the icing does, in his opinion, doe not occur when he would already expecting it.
It was flying in the Rockies all winter long and never saw any icing. I also made a forum post if the icing could be reworked with a custom Milviz logic to reflect dew point etc. but never received any reply.

[rayharris51]

Thanks all.

Bottom line is when I'm flying through thick cloud in Antarctica at -21C, probably best to switch on the deicing...

It would be useful to know how this works in real life, and Milviz have really worked hard to make this as real as possible. So I'm sure this is exactly what a real pilot needs to do.

I'm too used to flying around in the tropics, so when I just decided to have a quick tea time trip to the Antarctic I was a bit blase.

The Flight1 B200 does do a good job of simulating real icing on the wings though, so it woud be good if they could do that. But basically, my bad.

Ray

[steforna]

Is ice on the wings realized?

It just seems to happen super rarely as it is tied to the icing condition to be met by the simulator (KenG said so). He also said, that he thinks the icing does, in his opinion, doe not occur when he would already expecting it.
It was flying in the Rockies all winter long and never saw any icing. I also made a forum post if the icing could be reworked with a custom Milviz logic to reflect dew point etc. but never received any reply.

First flight i've performed with the King was ENSG-ENTO and I've found -SN as Metar.
During the climb i've noted the wings made Ice, and it was nice follow the checklist/procedure for the ice.

Well done! Really can't wait for the new SP1 Build

[N4GIX]

I don't see any evidence of ice on the windows at all, which I would expect if wing icing was present...

[rayharris51]

From what I have seen so far there has never been any visible evidence of ice on the wing in icing conditions (as in the B200 for example) but icing conditions can still kill you (or your flight). So the plane's behaviour must be correct I guess.

Strangely, when I checked MVAMS for damage to the plane - only the rigtht engine appeared to be slightly damaged (even though the plane had crashed and all perished!). The left engine was still all gren.

I did the Antarctic flight again today, and took careful note of engine temperature and icing protection, and arrived safely.


Ray

[tredsell]

So just to confirm, reading the comments above I’m not too sure.

Are icing effects visual on the MV king air, or just implemented into flight dynamics?