DME Arcs not available?

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Re: DME Arcs not available?

Post by r_ribes90 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:58 am

KenG, jarek, thanks for your help in verifying the behavior of the DME arcs.
I have verified that the arcs that you have suggested, also run correctly on my PC.
In any case, it seems clear that there is a bug that affects some implementations of these arcs, and that they should be reviewed by the support team, so I will report the incidence to them.
Greetings.

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Re: DME Arcs not available?

Post by KenG » Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:50 pm

It may be a Navigraph issue with how the procedure is defined in the Database. The fact that some work perfectly and others do not is suspicious. Are you using the latest NAVIGRAPH 2002 ARIAC?

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Re: DME Arcs not available?

Post by r_ribes90 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:08 pm

KenG wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:50 pm
It may be a Navigraph issue with how the procedure is defined in the Database. The fact that some work perfectly and others do not is suspicious. Are you using the latest NAVIGRAPH 2002 ARIAC?
Tested with NAVIGRAPH 2001 ARIAC. No issues detected with same airac and other planes (Airbus, etc).

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Re: DME Arcs not available?

Post by doodlebug » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:30 pm

Other planes may parse the data differently - what we would like to know is where the arcs work and where they don't in the KingAir.
This will help us determine the root cause.

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Re: DME Arcs not available?

Post by r_ribes90 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:28 pm

doodlebug wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:30 pm
Other planes may parse the data differently - what we would like to know is where the arcs work and where they don't in the KingAir.
This will help us determine the root cause.
Hi,
In some previous messages of this same topic, some procedures with dme arcs giving errors have been described in detail. Examples:
viewtopic.php?f=105&t=11730&sid=b7adfdb ... 9ca#p96449
viewtopic.php?f=105&t=11730&sid=b7adfdb ... 9ca#p96492
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Re: DME Arcs not available?

Post by doodlebug » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:47 pm

To clarify - the more examples we have the better.

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Re: DME Arcs not available?

Post by r_ribes90 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:16 pm

One more example:
Departure airport: LGKF
Runway: 32
SID: ARA2T
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The 350i draws an almost infinite radius DME arc:
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Re: DME Arcs not available?

Post by r_ribes90 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:36 pm

One more to test:
Departure airport: SAZS
Runway: 29
SID: ORERA1A
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Re: DME Arcs not available?

Post by r_ribes90 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:08 pm

Departure airport: MKJS
Runway: 07
SID: KESPA2
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Re: DME Arcs not available?

Post by r_ribes90 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:45 pm

Last example. In this case, the DME arc is made in the opposite direction:

Departure Airport: N/A
Runway: N/A
SID: N/A
Destination airport: KABQ
STAR: N/A
Runway: 03
Approach: ILS RW 03
Transition: NODME
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Re: DME Arcs not available?

Post by doodlebug » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:35 pm

Thank you - I have passed these on to our dev team.


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