Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

N4GIX
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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by N4GIX » Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:59 pm

trevorbair wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:50 pm
Yep, same here with my CH throttle quad. Was hoping it wasn't just me! :)
Did you try this suggestion?
http://www.milviz.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 127#p94122

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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by wgraysn » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:01 pm

Same for me, Saitek throttle quad x 2 no bueno, Happy to test a patch when available. Beautiful aircraft and systems, VR is spectacular but had to park it until I gain control of the throttles.

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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by N4GIX » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:12 pm

wgraysn wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:01 pm
Same for me, Saitek throttle quad x 2 no bueno, Happy to test a patch when available. Beautiful aircraft and systems, VR is spectacular but had to park it until I gain control of the throttles.
Since I posted a suggestion that does work with my Saitek throttle quad, have you tried it out???

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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by wgraysn » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:28 pm

That fixed it and all levers are working using FSUIPC! I need to pay more attention to these posts! Appreciate your directions.

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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by N4GIX » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:36 pm

wgraysn wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:28 pm
That fixed it and all levers are working using FSUIPC! I need to pay more attention to these posts! Appreciate your directions.
Well I'm delighted! Oddly enough I just learned this tip today myself, and I've been working on this project since the very beginning lo these past six years or thereabouts! :lol:

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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by Torkermax » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:42 pm

Seems like the throttle anomaly was introduces in the last couple Beta builds. Seems .39 or earlier didn't have that issue?

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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by Ephedrin » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:46 pm

to those who have it working over the complete range: how did you assign your throttles? I have set this value to -25 and assigned the throttles via Send to FSUIPC calibration, send to FS, even via the P3D controls but the throttles stop at flight idle. I have the Saitek throttle quadrant times two and use one lever per throttle but no success yet.

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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by wgraysn » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:50 pm

N4GIX wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:36 pm
wgraysn wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:28 pm
That fixed it and all levers are working using FSUIPC! I need to pay more attention to these posts! Appreciate your directions.
Well I'm delighted! Oddly enough I just learned this tip today myself, and I've been working on this project since the very beginning lo these past six years or thereabouts! :lol:
I was enjoying the 310R Redux just prior to my purchase of the King Air. Controls work perfectly with my settings in the 310R so I was really puzzled as to why the controls didn't function as well in the King Air. I suppose system integrations require some major code modifications between simulations. I worked as a project manager back in the day so I'm all to familiar with software releases and related issues. We had a rule no releases the last two weeks of December so I admired the courage of the team to release this weekend! Again thanks to the entire team for an outstanding simulation of the King Air 350i.

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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by iangrant1981 » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:51 pm

Editing the cfg file doesn't fix my Saitek issues. No matter what I do I still cannot get any control over GND/RVS range. Here is what I've established so far:

-Only by assigning the axis as an FS axis in FSUIPC do I get any control what-so-ever. If I assign it direct or use the P3D control dialog I get nothing. The fact that the default control mapping option doesn't work is baffling to me.

-Enabling any kind of calibration disables the throttles as well although I did note that the throttles will briefly move a short distance before becoming disabled when you close the FSUIPC dialog. This is repeatable as easily as opening FSUIPC and hitting 'OK' again right away and the throttles will budge a tiny bit before going inop again. I don't know if this is relevant at all but I found it strange.

-Editing the cfg to -25 does enable full control of the prop levers for me but appears to make no discernible difference for the throttles.

I am using a Saitek yoke and an additional Saitek throttle quadrant for my set up using the yoke's throttles for the left side i.e. T1,T2,P1 while P2, C1,C2 are mapped to the stand alone Saitek throttle quad.

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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by Ephedrin » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:56 pm

iangrant1981 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:51 pm
Editing the cfg file doesn't fix my Saitek issues. No matter what I do I still cannot get any control over GND/RVS range. Here is what I've established so far:

-Only by assigning the axis as an FS axis in FSUIPC do I get any control what-so-ever. If I assign it direct or use the P3D control dialog I get nothing. The fact that the default control mapping option doesn't work is baffling to me.

-Enabling any kind of calibration disables the throttles as well although I did note that the throttles will briefly move a short distance before becoming disabled when you close the FSUIPC dialog. This is repeatable as easily as opening FSUIPC and hitting 'OK' again right away and the throttles will budge a tiny bit before going inop again. I don't know if this is relevant at all but I found it strange.

-Editing the cfg to -25 does enable full control of the prop levers for me but appears to make no discernible difference for the throttles.

I am using a Saitek yoke and an additional Saitek throttle quadrant for my set up using the yoke's throttles for the left side i.e. T1,T2,P1 while P2, C1,C2 are mapped to the stand alone Saitek throttle quad.
exactly the same here

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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by N4GIX » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:13 pm

Ian, I don't have a registered FSUIPC at all, but my Saitek quad is working as I've described. Maybe FSUIPC is the difference? I honestly don't know as I didn't do the coding for any of the systems.

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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by wgraysn » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:17 pm

I've never been able to configure a GND range so I only use throttle and reverse. This is how I have my Saitek throttle configuration in FSUIPC. I set a button commands for the button click at the bottom of the throttle lever range. I set the "Control sent when pressed button pressed" to "Throttle1 Decr",the repeat checkbox is checked. I set the "Control sent when button released" to "Throttle 1 Cut".

No GND range but at least I can move into and out of reverse.

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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by redcow » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:20 pm

I can confirm the -25.00 only works for the prop leaver, not for the throttles under my setup.

Any step by step setup guide on how to config the throttle to make this work? For example: Throttle via FSUIPC, or via the P3D config etc.
Really would love to fly it with my new Honeycomb yoke arriving for X Mas :)

Greetings from EDDL/DUS.

Bye

Jan

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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by N4GIX » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:24 pm

Unfortunately we can only test these things on hardware we own, which is why we have a large team of beta testers to supplement our regular team members. I'm sure something can be done, but only after exhausting anything we can think of. ;)

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Re: Moving throttles/props/condition levers with hardware

Post by iangrant1981 » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:34 pm

I have set the button at the bottom of the range as mentioned, something that is not an uncommon requirement when flying planes that don't respond well to calibration (PMDG/AS A32X) but I don't find that to be a viable solution to the GND range issue while taxiing.

I also noted that even using the _dec_small command to try and slow down the rate at which the throttles decrease still leads to a rather abrupt drop into the reverse range.

I did map one of the rocker switches to increase and decrease the throttles out of necessity for taxiing but I don't find that to be an acceptable solution for a 'beyond study-level' aircraft. Don't get me wrong, I am really impressed with the King Air thus far even though there are a few other issues I've come across. The throttle thing is the only thing that really detracts from the experience. It's a gem in the air and the frame rates are surprisingly very good! It's just a total handful on the ground with out better control over the low end of the throttle range which is basically essential to taxing any turboprop.


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