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next big plane...

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:36 pm
by Krazycolin
So.... here I am doing some contemplating...

one of the things that always bugged me was that, even though there is perfectly good KC-135 out there... you can't actually fuel off of it nor can you fly the boom... and that makes it a drag...

So... here's my question...

should we do a KC-135 or a KC-10?

Now, it's a given that if we were to do a KC-10, we'd also do a DC-10... (albeit with the "wrong" cockpit.... 88% correct)....

Opinions?

Re: next big plane...

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:00 pm
by wiltzei
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Re: next big plane...

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:09 pm
by JonathanBleeker
135 please. I love INS systems....ill even enjoy steam gauges for that.

Re: next big plane...

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:38 pm
by Bone
KC-135, please sir.

Re: next big plane...

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:29 pm
by Barfly
I like the 10 cause it has a bigger refueling zone.

Re: next big plane...

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:11 pm
by Krazycolin
I am pretty sure that the 10 does drogues as well as boom. The 135, not...

Did CS do a 135? A nice one?

Re: next big plane...

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:56 pm
by agent_k
an outstanding dc-10 (like all the other milviz airplanes :D ) is missing here. i love the three holer planes so my vote is for the dc-10 :D

Re: next big plane...

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:43 pm
by Bone
Krazycolin wrote:I am pretty sure that the 10 does drogues as well as boom. The 135, not...

Did CS do a 135? A nice one?

The KC-135 has the drogue in wing pods now, along with the boom. I have two friends that fly with the Kansas ANG...one is a pilot, and the other is a boomer...I've seen their pics of the planes with the wing pods. I think they're KC-135T's.

Re: next big plane...

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:50 am
by Krazycolin
I think the T is glass... and no FE... which, might be easier for some things... nonetheless... the DC-10/KC-10 is a nice mix because we can cover two bases in one shot...

I'm still open about this...

Re: next big plane...

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:16 am
by Bone
KC-10 is just fine. On a side note, none of the KC-135's had an FE. The NAV station is sitting in the place where the B-707 has an FE.

Re: next big plane...

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:17 am
by Krazycolin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KC-13 ... ockpit.jpg

http://www.aviationnews.eu/blog/wp-cont ... ockpit.jpg

this one's not been accepted yet... so the DC/KC-10 is all glass still...

On the FE/Nav... ideally, we would avoid having an extra position to deal with...

other than the boom person though...

Re: next big plane...

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:27 am
by Bone
THe KC-10 has an FE, so you're not going to get out of modelling an extra crew station by doing a KC-10. The NAV station on the KC-135 is very simple compared to an FE panel.

Note the wing pods on the 135, they're housing for the drogue.

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Re: next big plane...

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:42 am
by Bone
also, I don't think the KC-10 is a glass cockpit. The following pics are current as of 2011.

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Re: next big plane...

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:32 am
by Krazycolin
glass is the worst... i hate glass...

Re: next big plane...

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:58 am
by kcgb
I vote 135