v4: MV GPS frequency swap buttons not working

Eric Bakker
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Re: v4: MV GPS frequency swap buttons not working

Post by Eric Bakker » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:19 pm

N4GIX wrote:
Eric Bakker wrote:If the GPS's remain a problem, could you not make the deault Garmin 500 available as an option please?
The default Garmin 500 has no radios at all, so I'm not sure you would be "solving" anything at all, but would be loosing functionality. :ugeek:
True indeed, unless you would add the 500 to the panel with the radios ('none' currently). :)

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Re: v4: MV GPS frequency swap buttons not working

Post by Eric Bakker » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:40 pm

Chuck Jodry wrote:Had an opportunity to test this and found them to be working perfectly , perhaps shifting your viewpoint with the A key will permit you to be able to click on the buttons without the corner of the throttle pedestal getting in the way of a clean access , these and the on off are hard to get at otherwise .
Best CJ
Hi Chuck,

I checked again, and even uninstalled and reinstalled the latest Beaver as admin, but the two 'swap buttons' on the MV530 and 430 do not work on my system. Mind you, I am talking about P3Dv4.
What could be different from your machine?

My P3Dv4 folder is on my SSD non-startup disk (D:).


[edit] When hovering over the buttons the cursor changes to a hand, and when I click these buttons I hear the click-sound. But the there is no swap.

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Re: v4: MV GPS frequency swap buttons not working

Post by N4GIX » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:39 am

Actually, both the B55 and the C310R have popup panels for the avionics, and yes they are the same instruments.

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Re: v4: MV GPS frequency swap buttons not working

Post by Eric Bakker » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:56 am

N4GIX wrote:Actually, both the B55 and the C310R have popup panels for the avionics, and yes they are the same instruments.
Hi Bill,
Thanks for your reply and confirmation.
Can you assist me in copying that part of the panel.cfg to the Beaver, or would it require adaption of the gauges?

Do you know or think that the swap buttons would work in the 2D panel, or would it make no difference?
But it will make it a lot easier to handle the GPS :)

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Re: v4: MV GPS frequency swap buttons not working

Post by N4GIX » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:43 pm

This should work for you. You may need to change the WindowXX numbers depending on which panel.cfg file you edit:

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[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Panel
Window01=WX Radar
Window02=GPS

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//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=500,366
window_size_ratio=1.000  
position=0
visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
window_size= 0.420, 0.460
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=C310_XMLGauges!FBS_GNS530_1d,  0,0,500,366

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Re: v4: MV GPS frequency swap buttons not working

Post by Eric Bakker » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:50 pm

Thanks for helping me out, Bill, I really appreciate it.

I edited the panel.cfg in the \Prepar3D v4\SimObjects\Airplanes\DHC-2 Beaver Milviz\panel.mv530_430 folder
I have chosen the MV530 as radio in the MVAMS program, so this is the folder where the aircraft.cfg points to.

However, it does not work yet.
The funny thing is that if I click with the mouse on the GPS, I see a short flash of a square frame at the top left once, but no 2D gauge appears.
Also the Shift-3 (or any shift-#) does not bring up the 2D gauge.
Shift-2 brings up an empty 2D radar gauge.

Can you check on your side what could be the cause?

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Re: v4: MV GPS frequency swap buttons not working

Post by N4GIX » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:21 am

Eric, I just checked in my P3D v3.4 version and it's working just fine. Clicking on the GNS530 will open/close the popup, as does the Shift-3 key-combo.

Did your add the Window02=GPS entry under [Window Titles]?

Check the lines:

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[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=MAIN_PANEL,THROTTLE_PANEL,GPS_PANEL
to make sure that GPS_PANEL is present.

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Re: v4: MV GPS frequency swap buttons not working

Post by Eric Bakker » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:38 pm

Bill, it is present.
I will show you the complete first part of the edited pane.cfg:

// This Panel.cfg file created by FS Panel Studio panel editor utility - http://www.fspanelstudio.com
// Built Thursday, June 19, 2014 at 16:37 FSPS Build:22767

[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Panel
Window01=WX Radar
Window02=GPS

[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=MAIN_PANEL,THROTTLE_PANEL,GPS_PANEL
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=10.000, 0.000, 0.000

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
position=1
visible=0
ident=10

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
file=WX_black.bmp
size_mm=419,381
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=71
window_size = 0.218,0.335
window_pos = 0,0
gauge00 = MV_WX!WX2D,0,0,419,381,2
gauge01 = MV_WX!WX,64,121,291,205,2

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=500,366
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
window_size= 0.420, 0.460
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=C310_XMLGauges!FBS_GNS530_1d, 0,0,500,366
//--------------------------------------------------------

And like I mentioned before, the first time when I try to bring up the 2D panel I see a very short flash of the outline of the panel. After that one time it will not do the flash again until I restart the sim.

Maybe there is a difference between v3 and v4 regarding this issue?

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Re: v4: MV GPS frequency swap buttons not working

Post by N4GIX » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:52 pm

I've also tested this configuration on FSX:SE and it too is working just fine. Generally speaking, whenever you see a quick "black flash" on screen, it means the sim cannot find the gauge being called for...

...see my reply below for a possible alternative.
Last edited by N4GIX on Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: v4: MV GPS frequency swap buttons not working

Post by N4GIX » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:57 pm

Try changing the gauge00= entry as below to use the copy stored in the root ..\panel folder:

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=500,366
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
window_size= 0.420, 0.460
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=..\panel\Milviz_GPS!FBS_GNS530_1d, 0,0,500,366

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Re: v4: MV GPS frequency swap buttons not working

Post by N4GIX » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:59 pm

N4GIX wrote:Try changing the gauge00= entry as below to use the copy stored in the root ..\panel folder:

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=500,366
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
window_size= 0.420, 0.460
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=..\panel\Milviz_GPS!FBS_GNS530_1d, 0,0,500,366

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Re: v4: MV GPS frequency swap buttons not working

Post by Eric Bakker » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:01 pm

N4GIX wrote:Try changing the gauge00= entry as below to use the copy stored in the root ..\panel folder:

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
...
gauge00=..\panel\Milviz_GPS!FBS_GNS530_1d, 0,0,500,366
This made it work!
Thanks again, this is a great addition to the Beaver. I would suggest to include it in the next Beaver update ;)

It is a pity though the swap buttons still do not work. They make a click sound but nothing happens.
I consider, until the GTN works, adding this 2D GPS panel to the default radio version of the Beaver, so I have both the GPS and working NAV/Comm setting. :D


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